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Sunday, January 8, 2017

Re: [nafex] Jay Cufts Szukis persimmon comment

A variation on that is to pt a copper wire loosely around the graft union before you bury/mound it. The scion eventually roots and the wire eventually constricts roots below the graft to kill the rootstock.

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> On Jan 8, 2017, at 8:34 AM, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Jay, quoting his persimmon guru, "He had told me at first that you couldn't
> get named varieties on their own roots because they were too
> hard to make cuttings of".
>
> This baffles me. Why not just graft it on a hardy rootstock and bury the
> graft union or protect it with dirt mounded over it during winter? I've
> read in Tukey's classic book on dwarf fruit trees that early American
> growers (educated hobbyists) used to use quince rootstocks for pears in
> climates too cold for quince by burying the unions. This could be done
> temporarily over winter or permanently.
>
> Also, I wonder if the graft unions would continue to be sensitive to
> extreme cold after a few years. I can think of no reason they would be. It
> is not the same as using a cold sensitive rootstock.
>
> I have a Szukis shoot growing that I grafted on a sucker from a Kaki
> grafted to a native persimmon rootstock that died back to the ground. I'm
> protecting the union right now with a mound of soil. I'm in a relatively
> warm Z6, but I'm not taking any chances- it is my first successful
> persimmon graft. I find them quite challenging.
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