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Monday, April 8, 2019

Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

Any idea where to get Charlotte strawberry plants? They are sold out
everywhere online. Is there a legal issue, or are they just popular?

-Pete

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 9:46 PM mark wessel <growyourown@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The aroma is incredible. I picked some and put the basket in my truck.
> When I got in the aroma was overwhelming. Flavor is was decent. Seemed like
> a pastry chefs dream fruit for finishing a dish. Foliar diseases plagued
> them but they seemed to carry on. There is a variety from france, Charlotte
> that has MDB for a parent. It is a day neutral with larger fruits, disease
> resistance and an intense candy strawberry flavor. It is our farm favorite.
> Fragrant as well.
>
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and
> flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
> > ________________________________
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> Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:20 AM
> > To: NAFEX email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully
> flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real
> gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally
> stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries
> he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his
> alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
> >>
> >> Melissa
> >>
> >
> > I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.
> >
> > Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have
> a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.
> >
> >
> > -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> > Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

The aroma is incredible. I picked some and put the basket in my truck. When I got in the aroma was overwhelming. Flavor is was decent. Seemed like a pastry chefs dream fruit for finishing a dish. Foliar diseases plagued them but they seemed to carry on. There is a variety from france, Charlotte that has MDB for a parent. It is a day neutral with larger fruits, disease resistance and an intense candy strawberry flavor. It is our farm favorite. Fragrant as well.

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
> ________________________________
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:20 AM
> To: NAFEX email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry
>
>
>
>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>
> I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.
>
> Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.
>
>
> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
>
>
>
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

I was not impressed by their flavor.

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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to find out your experience growing Mara des Bois strawberry. the relatively new day-neutral cultivar developed in France. Please include your zone and city and state in your reply. Thanks!
> thanks. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>
> Here's what one nursery's catalog (Jung) says about it:
> Mara Des Bois Strawberry
> A specialty strawberry developed in France. The small to medium size berries are bright red with a high gloss and are blessed with the highest flavor and fragrance of any strawberry variety. Planted in the spring, it begins bearing during the summer and into the fall. The following year it produces a good spring crop with continued lighter production all season. Excellent for container culture, too. Ideal for home gardeners or commercial applications where high taste and fragrance is required.
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
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From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:20 AM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry



> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>
> Melissa
>

I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.

Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale




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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>
> Melissa
>

I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.

Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale


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Sunday, April 7, 2019

Re: [nafex] Question about this list for subscribers.

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Re: [nafex] Question about this list for subscribers.

To cut to the chase:

NAFEX, Inc. should have their web person download and install HTTracker
app. Runit and start a new session and speciy download folder
then tell HTTracker to go to: https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex/
and download everything. The nafex list message archives are public
therefore HTTracker can download the entire message base, month by month.
What you end up with is a mirror of the archives at ibiblio. When it is
finished, after maybe 4 house or so, it will ask you if you want to view
downloaded website. Click on it and you will see exactly what exists at
ibiblio.
They they should take the downloaded filesystem-folder and add it to their
NAFEX website somewhere so that their members can browse the list from its
origin at Yahoo groups in 2001 to the present and have all that information
at their fingertips.. Clicking on the top level .html files opens the whole
archive. This way they do not have to be involved with this list.
If they can figure out how to get HTTracker to _update_ the message archive
with new material month by month, all the better. Otherwise they can just
download the whole thing again with HTTracker and replace the old with the
new in their website periodically.

Lon Rombaugh's Grapebreeders website at ibiblio can be downloaded the same
way. It is located here: http://www.ibiblio.org/grapebreeders/
Noone is maintaining this website so I would suggest anyone that interested
should download a copy for themselves. NAFEX could add this to their
website.
As for ownership, permissions and copyright issues, I am certain there
should not be any. The site is orphaned, unowned and unmaintained.

If anyone needs more information or help let me know.

As for adding co owners to this nafex list I will be adding those who
expressed interest in helping out after finding out whether they can handle
the technical aspects of list ownership.
The main duties are dealing with new subscribers or unsubbing people who
can't figure out how to do it themselves. The main list configuration is
done and shouldn't need to be changed. The list homepage could use some
work though. We are definitely lucky to have our forum at ibiblio. Yahoo is
unacceptable, groups.io is as good or better but storage space is limited
(a consideration for the long haul) and Google Groups has issues with what
email ids subscribers use though that has been proven not to be a problem
for most people, they _can_ use non-Gmail ID's.

LL
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