[nafex] peaches from seed

Does anyone know if these Chinese peach varieties that are sold for rootstocks are produce good fruit?

Chui Lum Tao
Tzim Pee Tao
Zin Dai Jiu Bao

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1

Looks like I have good fruit set in my Siberian C peach grove. Most
likely I'll have seed about the third week of September. The past few
years all the seed I had sold in a week or two.

~mIEKAL

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:40 PM, John Paul <john.paul.learn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.
>
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>> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:25:44 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX
>> member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do
>> not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Jim Fruth <
>> jimfruth@charter.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:48 PM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>>
>> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mIEKAL aND
>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:36 AM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>>
>> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
>> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
>> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
>> planting.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
>> > I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
>> > producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
>> >
>> > Hank Parker
>> > Maple syrup makers never die,
>> > They just evaporate!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
>> >> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
>> >> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
>> >> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
>> >> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
>> >> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
>> >> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! --
>> Sam
>> >> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
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>> >> <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>> >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:45 PM
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>> >>
>> >> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
>> >> could handle zone 4.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

I concur with Jerry it is costly venture and risky to say the least and
there is many sources here in the USA

Cliff


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Lehman [mailto:jwlehmantree@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 22:27
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

On 5/17/2017 8:45 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
> The down side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent
them to me avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in
case the seeds brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now
I hope they germinate.
I hate to tell you this but soaking them in bleach will not take care of
the sharka of virus, if they come from a region where sharka exists. As
I understand that it will be in the cotyledon's flesh and the seedling
would be infected. The last time sharka was brought into the US maybe 15
or 20 years ago USDA spent millions of dollars to eradicate it as it
would be devastating to the commercial Prunus industry. To bring it into
this country legally you would 1st need to get an import permit and then
it would go to Beltsville for greenhouse testing and then if it tests
free of any injurious disease it would be released to you for quarantine
growing for a minimum of 2 more years. But I feel quite strongly you
would not even be able to get an import permit to begin with. Sharka I
believe is one of the most USDA feared plant viruses.


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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

Good to know. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:27 PM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters ;
Cliff England
Subject: Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

On 5/17/2017 8:45 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
> The down side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent
> them to me avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in
> case the seeds brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach -
> now I hope they germinate.
I hate to tell you this but soaking them in bleach will not take care of
the sharka of virus, if they come from a region where sharka exists. As
I understand that it will be in the cotyledon's flesh and the seedling
would be infected. The last time sharka was brought into the US maybe 15
or 20 years ago USDA spent millions of dollars to eradicate it as it
would be devastating to the commercial Prunus industry. To bring it into
this country legally you would 1st need to get an import permit and then
it would go to Beltsville for greenhouse testing and then if it tests
free of any injurious disease it would be released to you for quarantine
growing for a minimum of 2 more years. But I feel quite strongly you
would not even be able to get an import permit to begin with. Sharka I
believe is one of the most USDA feared plant viruses.


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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

I obtained my Prunus persica seed from seedarea.com


-----Original Message-----
From: mIEKAL aND
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:45 PM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
Subject: Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

did you get them from eBay?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:
> During my search for Siberian C peach seed, I encountered a site that
> offered "wild peach seed from Northern China." That is where peaches
> originated, I was told, so I ordered some. The seeds are tiny, about the
> same size as Sib C peach seed that I got out of Canada years ago. The
> down
> side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me
> avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the
> seeds
> brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they
> germinate.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1
>
> Hello,
> I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is
> aware.
>
> /nafex
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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

On 5/17/2017 8:45 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
> The down side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the seeds brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they germinate.
I hate to tell you this but soaking them in bleach will not take care of
the sharka of virus, if they come from a region where sharka exists. As
I understand that it will be in the cotyledon's flesh and the seedling
would be infected. The last time sharka was brought into the US maybe 15
or 20 years ago USDA spent millions of dollars to eradicate it as it
would be devastating to the commercial Prunus industry. To bring it into
this country legally you would 1st need to get an import permit and then
it would go to Beltsville for greenhouse testing and then if it tests
free of any injurious disease it would be released to you for quarantine
growing for a minimum of 2 more years. But I feel quite strongly you
would not even be able to get an import permit to begin with. Sharka I
believe is one of the most USDA feared plant viruses.


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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

did you get them from eBay?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:
> During my search for Siberian C peach seed, I encountered a site that
> offered "wild peach seed from Northern China." That is where peaches
> originated, I was told, so I ordered some. The seeds are tiny, about the
> same size as Sib C peach seed that I got out of Canada years ago. The down
> side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me
> avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the seeds
> brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they
> germinate.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1
>
> Hello,
> I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.
>
> /nafex
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[nafex] Wild Peach Seed

During my search for Siberian C peach seed, I encountered a site that
offered "wild peach seed from Northern China." That is where peaches
originated, I was told, so I ordered some. The seeds are tiny, about the
same size as Sib C peach seed that I got out of Canada years ago. The down
side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me
avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the seeds
brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they
germinate.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Paul
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1

Hello,
I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.

/nafex

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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1

Hello,
I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:25 AM, <nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

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> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:25:44 +0000
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX
> member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do
> not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Jim Fruth <
> jimfruth@charter.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:48 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>
> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mIEKAL aND
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>
> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
> planting.
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
> > I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
> > producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
> >
> > Hank Parker
> > Maple syrup makers never die,
> > They just evaporate!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
> >> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
> >> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
> >> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
> >> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
> >> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
> >> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! --
> Sam
> >> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of mIEKAL aND
> >> <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:45 PM
> >> To: Henry; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
> >> Experimenters
> >> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
> >>
> >> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
> >> could handle zone 4.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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[nafex] Facilitating Germination of Cloud Berry(aka Bake Apple)

One bag of Lipton Tea steeped in one ounce of warm water then cooled to room temperature. Half of the seed was soaked in it for 24 hours. The other half of the seed was soaked in room temperature water. Both batches were planted one-quarter inch deep, outdoors in early Winter. As of May 10 (a few days ago), the tea-soaked seed have started growing above ground. No growth observed with the water soaked seed.
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