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Wednesday, December 17, 2014

[nafex] Raintree Nursery

I thought Raintree Nursery was out of business. Today I received my 2014
catalog. Here is their
phone number. 1 800 391 8892
web site is _www.RaintreeNursery.com_ (http://www.RaintreeNursery.com)

Dan Ester
Eugene, Oregon

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Re: [nafex] Persimmons.

Also,
Rock Bridge Trees - www.rockbridgetrees.com
Hidden Springs Nursery - www.hiddenspringsnursery.com


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Subject: [nafex] Persimmons.

Does anyone have a favorite place to order grafted persimmons and paw paws
from? I'm looking for some for next year, and haven't ever ordered these
species, and most nurseries I deal with don't carry them or are already sold
out for next year.

Thanks!

-matt
z5 se MI
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Re: [nafex] Persimmons.

England's Orchard & Nursery - www. nuttrees.net
Nolin River Nut Tree Nursery - www. nolinnursery.com

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[nafex] Persimmons.

Does anyone have a favorite place to order grafted persimmons and paw paws
from? I'm looking for some for next year, and haven't ever ordered these
species, and most nurseries I deal with don't carry them or are already
sold out for next year.

Thanks!

-matt
z5 se MI
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Friday, December 12, 2014

Re: [nafex] BIG medlars

Hi,

Just curious...
Are the trees bearing the big fruit different in form or size when compared to the standard varieties (say 'Nottingham')?

Best regards,

:-)

Andre Pierre
Central Massachusetts
Zone 5b






On Wed, Dec 10, 2014 at 02:21:43PM +0000, Jeffrey Boulier via nafex wrote:
> Dutch is sometimes called "Dutch Giant". ??Haven't heard of it under the Giant of??Uitbergen name.??From personal experience, it is quite a bit bigger than Nottingham.??
> Looking at pictures, I think the biggest variety around is either Large Russian, Puciu Big or Puciulot, none of which I've seen myself. Scroll down on this page:??http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/shrubs/msg0416174328502.html?10??for a picture of Large Russian with an apple. Puciu Big & Puciulot can be compared with some other cultivars here:??http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/tax_imag.pl?24182 ??
>
> On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:41 PM, Spidra Webster <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> The Home Orchard Society has an edible demonstration garden at Clackamas
> Community College that's really impressive. I was bowled over to see not
> one but two medlar varieties there. 'Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff' is truly
> monstrous. They also grew a variety called 'Westerveld'. I remember
> 'Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff' being 2 to 3 times as big as the 'Nottingham' I
> grew.
>
> https://www.flickr.com/photos/spidra/14687487338
>
>
> Megan Lynch
> http://www.meganlynch.net
>
> South Pasadena, CA
> Zone 10a
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Wednesday, December 10, 2014

Re: [nafex] BIG medlars

Dutch is sometimes called "Dutch Giant".  Haven't heard of it under the Giant of Uitbergen name. From personal experience, it is quite a bit bigger than Nottingham. 
Looking at pictures, I think the biggest variety around is either Large Russian, Puciu Big or Puciulot, none of which I've seen myself. Scroll down on this page: http://forums2.gardenweb.com/forums/load/shrubs/msg0416174328502.html?10 for a picture of Large Russian with an apple. Puciu Big & Puciulot can be compared with some other cultivars here: http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/tax_imag.pl?24182  

On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 11:41 PM, Spidra Webster <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:

The Home Orchard Society has an edible demonstration garden at Clackamas
Community College that's really impressive. I was bowled over to see not
one but two medlar varieties there. 'Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff' is truly
monstrous. They also grew a variety called 'Westerveld'. I remember
'Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff' being 2 to 3 times as big as the 'Nottingham' I
grew.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/spidra/14687487338


Megan Lynch
http://www.meganlynch.net

South Pasadena, CA
Zone 10a
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Tuesday, December 9, 2014

Re: [nafex] BIG medlars

The Home Orchard Society has an edible demonstration garden at Clackamas
Community College that's really impressive. I was bowled over to see not
one but two medlar varieties there. 'Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff' is truly
monstrous. They also grew a variety called 'Westerveld'. I remember
'Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff' being 2 to 3 times as big as the 'Nottingham' I
grew.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/spidra/14687487338


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Zone 10a
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[nafex] BIG medlars

I'm in the process of trying to procure some large varieties of medlar for grafting this spring. I'm hopefully receiving a couple sticks of Monstrueuse d'Evreinoff, which I'm excited about as I understand they are pretty massive. I just came across the names of a couple other varieties of truly giant medlar and was wondering if anyone new of sources for either. One is called Flander's Giant, and it looks like it may be a new variety and perhaps patented, but I'm not sure about that. The other one is an older variety I believe, perhaps Dutch. Its called Giant of Uitbergen. Apparently these 2 varieties have fruit that approaches 3" in diameter. It seems that their size makes them potentially a much more viable crop. I'm imagining running them through a food mill to separate the pulp from the skin and seeds, at which point I think you would have not only the most exotic "applesauce" around, but a really nice accompaniment to holiday meat dishes. Medlar glazed goose anyone?

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Monday, December 8, 2014

Re: [nafex] Non-Crandall Clove Currant?

My "Crandall" yields seedlings from time to time. I recently gave a couple to local friends.

Maybe find someone local who grows them and bum some seedlings off them?

Ginda
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On December 8, 2014 5:37:11 PM EST, "Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)" <sam.brungardt@state.mn.us> wrote:
>Jeff, to my knowledge the only nursery that ever offered R. odoratum
>seedlings was Bear Creek, in northeastern Washington State.
>Unfortunately, that nursery has been out of business for a number of
>years.
>
>I don't know if anyone really knows whether the true vegetatively
>propagated Crandall selection still exists. The Repository at
>Corvallis has a clonal selection, which was donated by either a
>nursery, breeder, or an enthusiast. Whether it is actually the true
>Crandall is something I don't think anyone knows. The original
>selection was made before 1900 in Kansas. I grew up in west-central
>Kansas, where buffalo currants grow wild and bear profusely. I have
>grown Crandall here in Minnesota and although the plant I had here bore
>heavily, it ripened in late August instead of about July 4 as it ripens
>in Kansas. The selection I grew here in St. Paul lacked the really
>rich and sweet flavor of the wild currants we picked in Kansas. I
>don't think its flowers were as fragrant, either. However, the traits
>my Crandall plant displayed in Minnesota may have been greatly affected
>by the climate and amount of heat available during ripening.
>
>I wish someone would test a number of wild clove currant selections to
>see if any are superior to the Crandall currant that is available from
>nurseries today. Clove currants are not difficult to establish from
>seed; my mother used to throw out the water she washed them in (which
>also contained a lot of seeds from burst berries) in a rough spot near
>our farmhouse, and eventually she had a patch of seedlings. However,
>they never bore enough currants to meet her needs. To get that amount
>the whole family went currant picking each summer along the creeks and
>roadsides as well as in our pastures.
>
>My dad's favorite pie was wild currant pie, which IS delicious served
>warm with vanilla ice cream. Mom canned wild currants so he could have
>currant pie anytime she found the time to make it. And mom made lots
>of wild currant jelly. She even helped me make wine from wild currants
>one year.
>
>We've sort of pussyfooted around the R. odoratum-R. aureum debate that
>botanists are engaged in. Prof. Nils Hansen made a number of golden
>current selections at South Dakota State University a number of years
>ago, but I think all of those have been lost. -- Sam Brungardt, St.
>Paul, Minn.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of
>Jeffrey Boulier via nafex
>Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:05 PM
>To: Mailing List at Ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>Subject: [nafex] Non-Crandall Clove Currant?
>
>Hi folks,
>Is anyone aware of a nursery (or collector) selling non-Crandall
>selections of Ribes Odoratum/Clove currant? I have checked my usual
>suspects, and only "Crandall" and generic ones come up. Lee Reich
>mentions that Crandall is not a single clonal variety, with some
>seedlings having been sold under that name, but since I have no way of
>telling if the Crandall I already have is the same as that from other
>suppliers, I'd like something that is definitively different.
>Thanks,Jeff
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Re: [nafex] Non-Crandall Clove Currant?

Jeff, to my knowledge the only nursery that ever offered R. odoratum seedlings was Bear Creek, in northeastern Washington State. Unfortunately, that nursery has been out of business for a number of years.

I don't know if anyone really knows whether the true vegetatively propagated Crandall selection still exists. The Repository at Corvallis has a clonal selection, which was donated by either a nursery, breeder, or an enthusiast. Whether it is actually the true Crandall is something I don't think anyone knows. The original selection was made before 1900 in Kansas. I grew up in west-central Kansas, where buffalo currants grow wild and bear profusely. I have grown Crandall here in Minnesota and although the plant I had here bore heavily, it ripened in late August instead of about July 4 as it ripens in Kansas. The selection I grew here in St. Paul lacked the really rich and sweet flavor of the wild currants we picked in Kansas. I don't think its flowers were as fragrant, either. However, the traits my Crandall plant displayed in Minnesota may have been greatly affected by the climate and amount of heat available during ripening.

I wish someone would test a number of wild clove currant selections to see if any are superior to the Crandall currant that is available from nurseries today. Clove currants are not difficult to establish from seed; my mother used to throw out the water she washed them in (which also contained a lot of seeds from burst berries) in a rough spot near our farmhouse, and eventually she had a patch of seedlings. However, they never bore enough currants to meet her needs. To get that amount the whole family went currant picking each summer along the creeks and roadsides as well as in our pastures.

My dad's favorite pie was wild currant pie, which IS delicious served warm with vanilla ice cream. Mom canned wild currants so he could have currant pie anytime she found the time to make it. And mom made lots of wild currant jelly. She even helped me make wine from wild currants one year.

We've sort of pussyfooted around the R. odoratum-R. aureum debate that botanists are engaged in. Prof. Nils Hansen made a number of golden current selections at South Dakota State University a number of years ago, but I think all of those have been lost. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, Minn.

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Sent: Friday, December 05, 2014 6:05 PM
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Subject: [nafex] Non-Crandall Clove Currant?

Hi folks,
Is anyone aware of a nursery (or collector) selling non-Crandall selections of Ribes Odoratum/Clove currant? I have checked my usual suspects, and only "Crandall" and generic ones come up. Lee Reich mentions that Crandall is not a single clonal variety, with some seedlings having been sold under that name, but since I have no way of telling if the Crandall I already have is the same as that from other suppliers, I'd like something that is definitively different.
Thanks,Jeff
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[nafex] 10 Exotic Fruits Worth Traveling For

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Friday, December 5, 2014

[nafex] Non-Crandall Clove Currant?

Hi folks,
Is anyone aware of a nursery (or collector) selling non-Crandall selections of Ribes Odoratum/Clove currant? I have checked my usual suspects, and only "Crandall" and generic ones come up. Lee Reich mentions that Crandall is not a single clonal variety, with some seedlings having been sold under that name, but since I have no way of telling if the Crandall I already have is the same as that from other suppliers, I'd like something that is definitively different.
Thanks,Jeff
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Tuesday, December 2, 2014

Sunday, November 30, 2014

Re: [nafex] How the date came to the U.S.

Thanks for posting this, Doug. The Popenoes were from this area. I didn't
hear anything about them growing up but have become fascinated when running
across them in my historical research in the past year.

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Tuesday, November 25, 2014

Re: [nafex] Cloudberry

http://www.twiningvinegarden.com/Rubus-chamaemorus-seeds-p/rubus-cham.htm is
in Canada, but they ship to the US.

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> I have a friend looking for Cloudberry starts or seed. Anyone know of a US
> source?
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Monday, November 24, 2014

[nafex] OSU horticulturist lists least toxic sprays and treatments for fruit trees

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Face next season's fruit tree disease and pest problems by making a preventative strategy now. Since late winter is a good time to plant bareroot trees, ...

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Wednesday, November 19, 2014

[nafex] Unmarketable black walnuts must be cracked to be separated from marketable nutmeats

Stenospermocarpic fruit linked to unmarketable black walnuts<https://www.google.com/url?rct=j&sa=t&url=http://phys.org/news/2014-11-stenospermocarpic-fruit-linked-unmarketable-black.html&ct=ga&cd=CAEYACoUMTYwMTcyMTY0Nzg4NjIxNzM0MjUyGmRmZTAxMjc3N2JlODQ1YTY6Y29tOmVuOlVT&usg=AFQjCNF3hOJE1eT5sAbjWXR9eIxTo2cBfg>
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Monday, November 17, 2014

Re: [nafex] loneroc re MN447s

Hank Parker
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Re: [nafex] single digit freeze, trees nopt dormant?

Big trees, or new plantings? I have a couple mature apple trees which always face the deep freeze with some leaves still on, green but freeze-dried by earlier frosts. They always grow well the next year, so I try not to worry. They were grown from scionwood collected locally, from trees surviving tough winters, so that helps with not worrying.

Younger trees, I try to mulch if a drastic temperature drop is forecast. But then you have to be sure of your vole excluders.

I've recently been trying more trees in pots, until they reach 6-7' height. I can move these to appropriate shelter when needed, but, they can't take the worst winter cold.

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Okay, so what can I expect? Some of my trees still had leaves on them,
green ones, and it is supposed to go down to 7 tomorrow night.

Naomi

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[nafex] loneroc re MN447s

Can't find your current email address in this darned yahoo mail. Can you please post something, or email me, or phone? Thanks.
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Friday, November 14, 2014

[nafex] single digit freeze, trees nopt dormant?

Okay, so what can I expect? Some of my trees still had leaves on them,
green ones, and it is supposed to go down to 7 tomorrow night.

Naomi

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Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Re: [nafex] [ARTICLE] Crunch: Modern apple growing; the club

Thanks for this article, more well written than most fruit articles in the
mainstream press.

This caught my eye:

"Minnesota growers who did not wish to join were allowed to plant up to a
thousand trees—subsequently increased to three thousand—but could sell the
apples only at farmers' markets, local grocery stores, and farm stands.
Only Next Big Thing was entitled to sell the apples commercially—i.e., to
wholesalers and grocers."

I did not realize that managed varieties could be grown by some farmers but
not wholesaled. Is this common with managed varieties? That makes the whole
thing much more palatable to me. In fact, I feel great about managed
varieties now! I liked a lot about it, but it felt too restrictive, that
parts of the public who technically funded some of this research were not
allowed to enjoy the fruits, if you will.

-matt
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> See
> http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2011/11/21/crunch
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Tuesday, November 11, 2014

Monday, November 10, 2014

Re: [nafex] [ARTICLE] "Club" apple varieties

Duh - it helps to click on the link before replying ;)

-Pete


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Re: [nafex] [ARTICLE] "Club" apple varieties

There was a long story on this same topic this morning on NPR - Morning
Edition I think...

-Pete


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On Mon, Nov 10, 2014 at 8:26 AM, <dwoodard@becon.org> wrote:

> See
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[nafex] [ARTICLE] "Club" apple varieties

See
<http://www.npr.org/blogs/thesalt/2014/11/10/358530280/want-to-grow-these-apples-youll-have-to-join-the-club>

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Friday, November 7, 2014

Re: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts

Yes, if you read the links I sent, from a group involved in a breeding program to introduce Chinese chestnut genes into a hybrid that is overwhelmingly American chestnut, you will see that the fungus causes minor cosmetic damage to Chinese chestnuts, but does live in those trees.

Chinese chestnut wood was the source of the fungus in the US, wasn't it? (Or maybe European chestnut?)

Ginda
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On November 7, 2014 8:39:31 AM EST, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
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>On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:
>
>> They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene
>which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They
>make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic
>material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan.
>
>From the article:
>
>> This gene doesn't hurt the fungus, but instead detoxifies the acid
>used by the fungus to attack the tree, essentially changing the fungus
>from a pathogen to a saprophyte that lives on the bark of the tree
>without causing significant harm.
>
>So these trees will continue to host the fungus, thereby remaining a
>permanent locus for infection. In many parts of the country, the fungus
>seems to be persistent in any case; but I'm not sure that it's not an
>issue everywhere.
>
>I wonder why they didn't take the resistance genes from the Chinese
>chestnut, instead of from a plant as distantly related as wheat? I
>don't know whether the Chinese chestnut genes allow the tree to
>continue hosting the fungus or not -- does anyone else?
>
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Re: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts

On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:

> They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan.

From the article:

> This gene doesn't hurt the fungus, but instead detoxifies the acid used by the fungus to attack the tree, essentially changing the fungus from a pathogen to a saprophyte that lives on the bark of the tree without causing significant harm.

So these trees will continue to host the fungus, thereby remaining a permanent locus for infection. In many parts of the country, the fungus seems to be persistent in any case; but I'm not sure that it's not an issue everywhere.

I wonder why they didn't take the resistance genes from the Chinese chestnut, instead of from a plant as distantly related as wheat? I don't know whether the Chinese chestnut genes allow the tree to continue hosting the fungus or not -- does anyone else?


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Re: [nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts

That's interesting. They are, in a sense, competing with the American Chestnut Foundation

http://www.acf.org/mission_history.php

The ACF also has some blight-resistant trees, and expect to have resistant trees available for planting in about 5 years. They got there by cross-breeding with Chinese chestnuts, but have been re-crossing and re-crossing with American chestnuts, while testing to retain the small number of genes that is responsible for resistence. They are currently working with trees that are 15/16th American.

http://www.acf.org/r_r.php

On Nov 6, 2014, at 9:08 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:

> They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene which renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They make the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan.
>
> It will be interesting to see how the trials go...
>
> http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141106082032.htm
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Thursday, November 6, 2014

[nafex] Blight resistant American Chestnuts

They are apparently transgenic with a wheat oxalate oxidase gene which
renders the trees resistant to fungal-associated pathology. They make
the point that these new trees have more American Chestnut genetic
material than the complex hybrids such as Dunstan.

It will be interesting to see how the trials go...

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/11/141106082032.htm
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Re: [nafex] Honey Locust

The ones I have tasted must have fermented; they tasted sweet, but not
very good. I am open to another try though.

Did you pick up pods that had fallen, or did you pick from the tree?

Betsy Hilborn



On 11/6/2014 6:38 AM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote:
I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am
absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that
the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat
them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it
tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of
getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the
best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding
work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a
seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps
be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop
and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does
anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate
trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I
see there is an interest group for honey locust.
Consider me interested.
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Re: [nafex] Honey Locust

Andy Wilson has been working with honey locust for decades.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:43:46 -0500 (EST), "PATTY "
<jrplelie@centurylink.net> wrote:
> Devin,
>
> Don't know if you have visited the Honey Locust Agroforestry website
> but it does have some good info. I have spoken to Andy Wilson in the
> past and he sounds pretty knowledgeable but the website and honey
> locusts may be a passing interest for him. However the info they
> have
> online is actually pretty good. This link may help answer your
> question about honey locust pollination.
>
>
> http://faculty.virginia.edu/honeylocust-agroforestry/agroforestry/HoneylocustAgroforestry.htm
>
> Jim Elie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Devin Smith via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:38:45 AM
> Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust
>
> I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am
> absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion
> that
> the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat
> them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me
> it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different
> ways
> of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know
> the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little
> breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if
> there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it
> would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to
> extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they
> are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are
> possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile
> polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for
> honey locust.
> Consider me interested.

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