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Saturday, September 9, 2017

Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

how about a sloe plum?
RDO

-----Original Message-----
From: L.A. Rizzo
Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2017 8:51 PM
To: rob hamilton ; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
Experimenters
Subject: Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

It's 8 feet tall - he says it came up by itself - has a plum seed, very
very sweet to eat, some type of plum. He didn't bring a branch today, but
may take it to the extension agent - thanks for the input!

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM, rob hamilton via nafex <
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

> could it be a Beach Plum? --------------------------------------------
> Now Zone 8a!! Atlanta, GA
>
> Atlanta Fruits Club
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atlanta_Fruits/
> North American Fruit Explorers (NAFEX)
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> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:53 PM, Jerry Lehman <
> jwlehmantree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/24/2017 10:37 PM, L.A. Rizzo wrote:
> > I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
> > Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.
> The serrated leaves I believe put it in the Prunus family and the bark
> looks very similar to cherry. It's too late in the season for cherry, I
> believe. My guess is plum and very possibly Prunus americana.
>
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Sunday, August 27, 2017

Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

It's 8 feet tall - he says it came up by itself - has a plum seed, very
very sweet to eat, some type of plum. He didn't bring a branch today, but
may take it to the extension agent - thanks for the input!

On Sat, Aug 26, 2017 at 7:45 PM, rob hamilton via nafex <
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

> could it be a Beach Plum? --------------------------------------------
> Now Zone 8a!! Atlanta, GA
>
> Atlanta Fruits Club
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atlanta_Fruits/
> North American Fruit Explorers (NAFEX)
> www.NAFEX.org
> Southern Fruit Fellowship (SFF) http://southernfruitfellowship.
> wordpress.com/
> California Rare Fruit Growers
> www.crfg.org
>
> My New Blog!!
> http://atlantafruitman.wordpress.com/
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:53 PM, Jerry Lehman <
> jwlehmantree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/24/2017 10:37 PM, L.A. Rizzo wrote:
> > I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
> > Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.
> The serrated leaves I believe put it in the Prunus family and the bark
> looks very similar to cherry. It's too late in the season for cherry, I
> believe. My guess is plum and very possibly Prunus americana.
>
> Jerry
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Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

Looks too big for a beach Plum (though tough to tell scale)

On Aug 27, 2017 3:14 PM, "rob hamilton via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
wrote:

> could it be a Beach Plum? --------------------------------------------
> Now Zone 8a!! Atlanta, GA
>
> Atlanta Fruits Club
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atlanta_Fruits/
> North American Fruit Explorers (NAFEX)
> www.NAFEX.org
> Southern Fruit Fellowship (SFF) http://southernfruitfellowship.
> wordpress.com/
> California Rare Fruit Growers
> www.crfg.org
>
> My New Blog!!
> http://atlantafruitman.wordpress.com/
>
> On Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:53 PM, Jerry Lehman <
> jwlehmantree@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 8/24/2017 10:37 PM, L.A. Rizzo wrote:
> > I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
> > Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.
> The serrated leaves I believe put it in the Prunus family and the bark
> looks very similar to cherry. It's too late in the season for cherry, I
> believe. My guess is plum and very possibly Prunus americana.
>
> Jerry
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Saturday, August 26, 2017

Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

could it be a Beach Plum? --------------------------------------------
Now Zone 8a!! Atlanta, GA

Atlanta Fruits Club   
   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atlanta_Fruits/
North American Fruit Explorers (NAFEX)
   www.NAFEX.org
Southern Fruit Fellowship (SFF)    http://southernfruitfellowship.wordpress.com/
California Rare Fruit Growers
   www.crfg.org

My New Blog!!
http://atlantafruitman.wordpress.com/

On Saturday, August 26, 2017 12:53 PM, Jerry Lehman <jwlehmantree@gmail.com> wrote:

On 8/24/2017 10:37 PM, L.A. Rizzo wrote:
> I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
> Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.
The serrated leaves I believe put it in the Prunus family and the bark
looks very similar to cherry. It's too late in the season for cherry, I
believe. My guess is plum and very possibly Prunus americana.

Jerry
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Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

On 8/24/2017 10:37 PM, L.A. Rizzo wrote:
> I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
> Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.
The serrated leaves I believe put it in the Prunus family and the bark
looks very similar to cherry. It's too late in the season for cherry, I
believe. My guess is plum and very possibly Prunus americana.

Jerry
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Friday, August 25, 2017

Re: [nafex] Identify fruit?

All features (leaves, buds, bark, fruit) are out of focus... making definitive ID difficult for me...and there's nothing provided to give any indication of scale/size.
Bark, as best I can ascertain, is suggestive of Prunus... but the fruits look very much like a crabapple...
Differentiation between Prunus and Malus would be simple for the friend to accomplish. ... just cut or bite into a fruit... single stone/pit vs. multiple seeds.

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Subject: [nafex] Identify fruit?

I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.




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Thursday, August 24, 2017

[nafex] Identify fruit?

I have a friend who would like this identified - growing in Quincy, MA.
Says it looks like a cross between an apple and a plum.




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*Kingston, MA*
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Sunday, August 13, 2017

Re: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Single trunk sounds best. Sell in fall to be sure of full dormancy after
cold takes leaves off.
rdo

-----Original Message-----
From: Mandala Farm
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Hello,
I'm interested to know if anyone might be able to share some experience
regarding care of apple trees, post-grafting.

Specifically, this year in New York, I bench-grafted some apples using whip
and tongue or an omega-tool. I have a couple of questions.

1) do people normally recommend trimming back multiple buds from which new
growth has emerged from the scionwood, so there is only one main developing
trunk for the tree?

2) Also, may I ask at what age/maturity anyone who is selling trees
typically sells them? I'm not sure if it would be too early to sell these
to customer in the fall and if I should wait until next spring before
offering them for sale.

I am growing trees in 13" deep tree pots and rootstocks are about 1/2"
caliper. For most of the grafts, top growth from the graft union is
between 16-20"

Thank you kindly for any experience you are able to share.

Sincerely,
John Paul Learn
http://www.mandala.farm
707-702-1575
mandalafarm108@gmail.com

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Re: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Single trunk sounds best. Sell in fall to be sure of full dormancy after
cold takes leaves off.
rdo

-----Original Message-----
From: Mandala Farm
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Hello,
I'm interested to know if anyone might be able to share some experience
regarding care of apple trees, post-grafting.

Specifically, this year in New York, I bench-grafted some apples using whip
and tongue or an omega-tool. I have a couple of questions.

1) do people normally recommend trimming back multiple buds from which new
growth has emerged from the scionwood, so there is only one main developing
trunk for the tree?

2) Also, may I ask at what age/maturity anyone who is selling trees
typically sells them? I'm not sure if it would be too early to sell these
to customer in the fall and if I should wait until next spring before
offering them for sale.

I am growing trees in 13" deep tree pots and rootstocks are about 1/2"
caliper. For most of the grafts, top growth from the graft union is
between 16-20"

Thank you kindly for any experience you are able to share.

Sincerely,
John Paul Learn
http://www.mandala.farm
707-702-1575
mandalafarm108@gmail.com

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Re: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Single trunk sounds best. Sell in fall to be sure of full dormancy after
cold takes leaves off.
rdo

-----Original Message-----
From: Mandala Farm
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Hello,
I'm interested to know if anyone might be able to share some experience
regarding care of apple trees, post-grafting.

Specifically, this year in New York, I bench-grafted some apples using whip
and tongue or an omega-tool. I have a couple of questions.

1) do people normally recommend trimming back multiple buds from which new
growth has emerged from the scionwood, so there is only one main developing
trunk for the tree?

2) Also, may I ask at what age/maturity anyone who is selling trees
typically sells them? I'm not sure if it would be too early to sell these
to customer in the fall and if I should wait until next spring before
offering them for sale.

I am growing trees in 13" deep tree pots and rootstocks are about 1/2"
caliper. For most of the grafts, top growth from the graft union is
between 16-20"

Thank you kindly for any experience you are able to share.

Sincerely,
John Paul Learn
http://www.mandala.farm
707-702-1575
mandalafarm108@gmail.com

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Re: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Single trunk sounds best. Sell in fall to be sure of full dormancy after
cold takes leaves off.
rdo

-----Original Message-----
From: Mandala Farm
Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2017 2:32 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Hello,
I'm interested to know if anyone might be able to share some experience
regarding care of apple trees, post-grafting.

Specifically, this year in New York, I bench-grafted some apples using whip
and tongue or an omega-tool. I have a couple of questions.

1) do people normally recommend trimming back multiple buds from which new
growth has emerged from the scionwood, so there is only one main developing
trunk for the tree?

2) Also, may I ask at what age/maturity anyone who is selling trees
typically sells them? I'm not sure if it would be too early to sell these
to customer in the fall and if I should wait until next spring before
offering them for sale.

I am growing trees in 13" deep tree pots and rootstocks are about 1/2"
caliper. For most of the grafts, top growth from the graft union is
between 16-20"

Thank you kindly for any experience you are able to share.

Sincerely,
John Paul Learn
http://www.mandala.farm
707-702-1575
mandalafarm108@gmail.com

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Thursday, August 10, 2017

[nafex] Grafted Apple After-care

Hello,
I'm interested to know if anyone might be able to share some experience
regarding care of apple trees, post-grafting.

Specifically, this year in New York, I bench-grafted some apples using whip
and tongue or an omega-tool. I have a couple of questions.

1) do people normally recommend trimming back multiple buds from which new
growth has emerged from the scionwood, so there is only one main developing
trunk for the tree?

2) Also, may I ask at what age/maturity anyone who is selling trees
typically sells them? I'm not sure if it would be too early to sell these
to customer in the fall and if I should wait until next spring before
offering them for sale.

I am growing trees in 13" deep tree pots and rootstocks are about 1/2"
caliper. For most of the grafts, top growth from the graft union is
between 16-20"

Thank you kindly for any experience you are able to share.

Sincerely,
John Paul Learn
http://www.mandala.farm
707-702-1575
mandalafarm108@gmail.com

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Monday, August 7, 2017

[nafex] NAFEX-NNGA-SFF conference speakers program AL

Dear NAFEX member,

It has come to our attention that some people are having difficulty
finding the speakers program on line. It is attached to this email in 2
formats.

There still is time to register. You can go to *NAFEX.org* or
*nutgrowing.org* where there is a link to PayPal to make it quick and
easy. Also we need your reservations for the headcounts as we must
notify the caterers in order to have sufficient meals. If you send in a
printed reservation after Tuesday please let me know by email that you
have done so for the headcount in case your reservation gets lost in the
mail.

A limited number of walk-ins can be accepted but best if we are notified
by email ahead of time, even if only one day.

Very briefly, registrations begin early Sunday afternoon, August 13 at
the reservation desk with the welcome dinner that evening with show and
tell presentations to follow. Reservations continue Monday morning,
August 14 as well as meetings and presentations. Tuesday is a full day
of presentations with the banquet that evening. Wednesday is the field
tour by bus or auto. For full details visit either of the 2 websites
listed above.

Hope to see you there next week.

Jerry Lehman, conference committee member and registrar

Sunday, June 25, 2017

[nafex] NAFEX-NNGA annual meeting

Good Morning Everyone,

Attached is the combined annual meeting announcement and registration
form for the North American Fruit Explorers and Northern Nut Growers.
Members of the Southern fruit Fellowship are also invited. This meeting
is only 7 weeks away so please get your reservation in as quickly as
possible and don't forget to reserve the motel room. If you have never
attended an annual meeting of either organization this should be your 1st.

These are the current speakers and presentation titles:

Lenny Wells Cultural Management of Southeastern Pecans
Patrick Conner Scab resistant pecan cultivars
Jim Dutcher Safe, Inexpensive, Effective, and Long-lasting
Biological Controls for Pecan Insects and Mites
Will Easterlin Pecan Marketing in Georgia
Tom Brenneman Pecan truffles-A fungus with a future!
Bob Wallace Our Nuts are Bigger: 38 Years Living in a Nut Farm
Dennis Fulbright Was the 2016 Michigan Chestnut Harvest an Anomaly or
Trend?
Lester Davis The Trail of Hybrid ChinquapinXChestnut From
Seed to Deltaville, Va
Elisa Lauritzen Characterization of Black Walnut Genotypes for
Resistance to Thousand Canker Disease
Jerry VanSambeek Thousand Canker Disease Update for the Eastern U.S.
Chuck Mashburn Making Syrup from Black Walnut Trees
Brian Hammons Black Walnut Research & Promotion Builds Future
Supply & Demand
Nicole Barber Use of Guilds to Grow Healthy Fruit & Nut Trees
Ron Powell What's feeding on my pawpaw?
Dr. Jed Fahey Moringa oleifera (Drumstick Tree): Opportunities
for Its Development as a Food and Medicine
Jerry Lehman Update, Commercializing American Persimmon
Vicki Huges Georgia Olives
AJ Bullard Mulberry, Myths and Mysteries Unveiled
AJ Bullard Mulberry Propagation and Culture
John Kelsey Growing and Evaluating EFB-Resistant Hazelnut Cultivars
in West Virginia
Tom Molnar Update on Eastern Filbert Blight Fungus: It's Genetic
Diversity and Implications for Hazelnut Breeding
Ted Cottrell Biology and Management of Stink Bugs in Orchards
Justin Holt Nutty Buddy Collective: Growing A Community-Supported
Perennial Agriculture
Wayne Hanna/Lindy Savell New Cold Tolerant Citrus for the Southern
USA-must scheule for Tuesday
Heather Machovina Micropropagation: The Next Approach to Your Edible
Production Success
Patrick Conner Growing Muscadine Grapes
Craig Kvein The Future Farmstead
David Hasty Historic Orchards & Old Fruit Trees
Marcus Toole GSU Botanic Garden
Sandi Newman Georgia Gleaning Project
Rhonda Britton Growing Jujube
Eliza Greenman Tree Fruit Explorers back to back with Pete Halupka
Pete Halupka Tree Fruit Explorers back to back with Pete

Hope to see you all there,

Jerry Lehman

Monday, May 22, 2017

[nafex] peaches from seed

Does anyone know if these Chinese peach varieties that are sold for rootstocks are produce good fruit?

Chui Lum Tao
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--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
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Thursday, May 18, 2017

Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1

Looks like I have good fruit set in my Siberian C peach grove. Most
likely I'll have seed about the third week of September. The past few
years all the seed I had sold in a week or two.

~mIEKAL

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 3:40 PM, John Paul <john.paul.learn@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.
>
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>> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:25:44 +0000
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX
>> member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do
>> not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
>>
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Jim Fruth <
>> jimfruth@charter.net>
>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:48 PM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>>
>> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: mIEKAL aND
>> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:36 AM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>>
>> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
>> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
>> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
>> planting.
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
>> > I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
>> > producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
>> >
>> > Hank Parker
>> > Maple syrup makers never die,
>> > They just evaporate!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
>> >> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
>> >> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
>> >> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
>> >> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
>> >> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
>> >> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! --
>> Sam
>> >> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>> >>
>> >> ________________________________
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>> >> <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
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>> >> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
>> >> could handle zone 4.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
>> >> wrote:
>> >>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Wednesday, May 17, 2017

Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

I concur with Jerry it is costly venture and risky to say the least and
there is many sources here in the USA

Cliff


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-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Lehman [mailto:jwlehmantree@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 22:27
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

On 5/17/2017 8:45 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
> The down side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent
them to me avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in
case the seeds brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now
I hope they germinate.
I hate to tell you this but soaking them in bleach will not take care of
the sharka of virus, if they come from a region where sharka exists. As
I understand that it will be in the cotyledon's flesh and the seedling
would be infected. The last time sharka was brought into the US maybe 15
or 20 years ago USDA spent millions of dollars to eradicate it as it
would be devastating to the commercial Prunus industry. To bring it into
this country legally you would 1st need to get an import permit and then
it would go to Beltsville for greenhouse testing and then if it tests
free of any injurious disease it would be released to you for quarantine
growing for a minimum of 2 more years. But I feel quite strongly you
would not even be able to get an import permit to begin with. Sharka I
believe is one of the most USDA feared plant viruses.


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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

Good to know. Thanks.

-----Original Message-----
From: Jerry Lehman
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 9:27 PM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters ;
Cliff England
Subject: Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

On 5/17/2017 8:45 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
> The down side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent
> them to me avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in
> case the seeds brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach -
> now I hope they germinate.
I hate to tell you this but soaking them in bleach will not take care of
the sharka of virus, if they come from a region where sharka exists. As
I understand that it will be in the cotyledon's flesh and the seedling
would be infected. The last time sharka was brought into the US maybe 15
or 20 years ago USDA spent millions of dollars to eradicate it as it
would be devastating to the commercial Prunus industry. To bring it into
this country legally you would 1st need to get an import permit and then
it would go to Beltsville for greenhouse testing and then if it tests
free of any injurious disease it would be released to you for quarantine
growing for a minimum of 2 more years. But I feel quite strongly you
would not even be able to get an import permit to begin with. Sharka I
believe is one of the most USDA feared plant viruses.


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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

I obtained my Prunus persica seed from seedarea.com


-----Original Message-----
From: mIEKAL aND
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 7:45 PM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
Subject: Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

did you get them from eBay?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:
> During my search for Siberian C peach seed, I encountered a site that
> offered "wild peach seed from Northern China." That is where peaches
> originated, I was told, so I ordered some. The seeds are tiny, about the
> same size as Sib C peach seed that I got out of Canada years ago. The
> down
> side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me
> avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the
> seeds
> brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they
> germinate.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1
>
> Hello,
> I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is
> aware.
>
> /nafex
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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

On 5/17/2017 8:45 PM, mIEKAL aND wrote:
> The down side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the seeds brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they germinate.
I hate to tell you this but soaking them in bleach will not take care of
the sharka of virus, if they come from a region where sharka exists. As
I understand that it will be in the cotyledon's flesh and the seedling
would be infected. The last time sharka was brought into the US maybe 15
or 20 years ago USDA spent millions of dollars to eradicate it as it
would be devastating to the commercial Prunus industry. To bring it into
this country legally you would 1st need to get an import permit and then
it would go to Beltsville for greenhouse testing and then if it tests
free of any injurious disease it would be released to you for quarantine
growing for a minimum of 2 more years. But I feel quite strongly you
would not even be able to get an import permit to begin with. Sharka I
believe is one of the most USDA feared plant viruses.


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Re: [nafex] Wild Peach Seed

did you get them from eBay?

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:32 PM, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:
> During my search for Siberian C peach seed, I encountered a site that
> offered "wild peach seed from Northern China." That is where peaches
> originated, I was told, so I ordered some. The seeds are tiny, about the
> same size as Sib C peach seed that I got out of Canada years ago. The down
> side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me
> avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the seeds
> brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they
> germinate.
>
> -----Original Message----- From: John Paul
> Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1
>
> Hello,
> I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.
>
> /nafex
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[nafex] Wild Peach Seed

During my search for Siberian C peach seed, I encountered a site that
offered "wild peach seed from Northern China." That is where peaches
originated, I was told, so I ordered some. The seeds are tiny, about the
same size as Sib C peach seed that I got out of Canada years ago. The down
side of this transaction is that the Hong Kong people who sent them to me
avoided U.S. inspection by lying about the contents. Just in case the seeds
brought some unwanted surprise, I soaked them in bleach - now I hope they
germinate.

-----Original Message-----
From: John Paul
Sent: Wednesday, May 17, 2017 3:40 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1

Hello,
I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.

/nafex

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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 202, Issue 1

Hello,
I'm also interested in a source of Siberian Peach seeds, if anyone is aware.

On Mon, Mar 13, 2017 at 4:25 AM, <nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
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> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 13 Mar 2017 08:25:44 +0000
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX
> member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do
> not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Jim Fruth <
> jimfruth@charter.net>
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:48 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>
> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mIEKAL aND
> Sent: Sunday, March 12, 2017 8:36 AM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>
> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
> planting.
>
> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
> > I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
> > producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
> >
> > Hank Parker
> > Maple syrup makers never die,
> > They just evaporate!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
> >> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
> >> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
> >> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
> >> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
> >> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
> >> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! --
> Sam
> >> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
> >>
> >> ________________________________
> >> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of mIEKAL aND
> >> <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:45 PM
> >> To: Henry; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
> >> Experimenters
> >> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
> >>
> >> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
> >> could handle zone 4.
> >>
> >> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Sunday, May 14, 2017

[nafex] Facilitating Germination of Cloud Berry(aka Bake Apple)

One bag of Lipton Tea steeped in one ounce of warm water then cooled to room temperature. Half of the seed was soaked in it for 24 hours. The other half of the seed was soaked in room temperature water. Both batches were planted one-quarter inch deep, outdoors in early Winter. As of May 10 (a few days ago), the tea-soaked seed have started growing above ground. No growth observed with the water soaked seed.
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Sunday, April 23, 2017

[nafex] Gooseberry Thorns

Greetings All -

Can anyone tell me if gooseberries do any significant shedding of thorns or
thorn-laden branches? I had them once and as I recall, when they're
reasonably well kept, they really don't drop thorns or wood.

Reason I'm asking is I'm tearing out landscape grass around the pool at our
new home, and I'm trying to figure out if gooseberries are a reasonable
replacement in the more out-of-the way spots. Currants will be going in to
the holes where it's more likely people might brush up against the plants ;)

-Pete

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Wednesday, April 19, 2017

[nafex] Pomona and Pawpaws!

The Summer 2017 issue of Pomona isgoing to be dedicated to our great native tree, the PAWPAW!
This is a call to those who have anyexperience with pawpaws to contribute a report to Pomona. Whether itbe in growing, breeding, marketing, or cooking, we hope you willshare your experience with other NAFEX members. Since our issue isonline we can include color photos, so please send those along, too. Don't worry if you don't know how to insert a photo in the text, justattach it to an email and we'll take care of the rest.
Since pawpaws are not widely grown,there's not a whole lot of information on them available, especiallywhen it comes to the performance of particular varieties in differentregions. Even if you have just a couple of pawpaw trees, yourexperience may help another perspective grower.
Jackie Kuhn, the editor of Pomona, hasrepresented NAFEX at several Mother Earth News Fairs, and she reportsshe receives a lot of questions concerning pawpaws. There isinterest out there; let's get the information out.
The NAFEX conference in Tifton thissummer will have some lectures on pawpaws. A series of articles onpawpaws right before the conference may inspire heightened interestin these lectures.
Please send articles totippingpine@gmail.com.
Of course, articles on any other topicwill be welcome
Thanks so much!
Melinda McCuan Gathering Editor, Pomona Summer 2017
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Sunday, April 16, 2017

[nafex] Bob Purvis phone number?

Can someone backchannel me Bob Purvis's phone number. He doesn't seem
to read emails very often. Hoping to see if he still has some pear
scionwood left.

thanks!

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Tuesday, April 11, 2017

Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Yay! You got it!!

Regards,

Jay

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On 4/10/2017 5:50 AM, Matt Demmon wrote:
> Because it causes ginger-vitis!
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a grape
>> that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.
>>
>> On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
>> intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but it
>> seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why. (It's a
>> riddle.)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> Jay Cutts
>> Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
>> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
>> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
>> Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
>> (505)-281-0684
>> 10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
>>
>>> I found this grape research fascinating!
>>>
>>> --Henry Fieldseth
>>> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna.
>>>> I think Somerset is in there too.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-
>>> Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Monday, April 10, 2017

Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 206, Issue 1

Any chance some of this could be submitted to Pomona magazine?

Barb


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Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Y'all should be ashamed of yourselves... :}


On 4/10/2017 7:50 AM, Matt Demmon wrote:
> Because it causes ginger-vitis!
>
> On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a grape
>> that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.
>>
>> On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
>> intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but it
>> seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why. (It's a
>> riddle.)
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Jay
>>
>> Jay Cutts
>> Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
>> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
>> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
>> Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
>> (505)-281-0684
>> 10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days
>>
>>
>> On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
>>
>>> I found this grape research fascinating!
>>>
>>> --Henry Fieldseth
>>> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>>>
>>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna.
>>>> I think Somerset is in there too.
>>>>
>>>> Lisa
>>>>
>>>> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-
>>> Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Because it causes ginger-vitis!

On Mon, Apr 3, 2017 at 1:39 PM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:

> Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a grape
> that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.
>
> On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
> intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but it
> seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why. (It's a
> riddle.)
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Cutts
> Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
> Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
> (505)-281-0684
> 10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days
>
>
> On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
>
>> I found this grape research fascinating!
>>
>> --Henry Fieldseth
>> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>>
>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>>
>>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna.
>>> I think Somerset is in there too.
>>>
>>> Lisa
>>>
>>> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-
>> Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Tuesday, April 4, 2017

Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

It never occurred to me that it might be anything special. It was here on the homestead when I moved here.

-----Original Message-----
From: Henry via nafex
Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2017 11:10 AM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
Cc: Henry
Subject: Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Jim,

Why are you not selling me your grape?

--Henry


--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 4/3/17, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 PM

Jay,

I would almost be willing to bet that my
grape would work for you. It
has borne a
crop after -44 F. It has seeds and produces large clusters
of
1/2 to 3/4 inch fruits, pleasantly
sour.

Jim Fruth

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Cutts
Sent: Monday,
April 03, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Henry ; mailing
list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
Experimenters
Subject: Re:
[nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm

group

Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and
it's hard to find a
grape that's
productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling
along.

On a lighter grape
note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table
grape. The fruit was good but
it seemed to
cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why.
(It's a riddle.)

Regards,

Jay

Jay
Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505)-281-0684
10 am to 10 pm
Mt Time, 7 days

On 4/3/2017
10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> I
found this grape research fascinating!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>
>> Subject: Re:
Grapes
>>
>>
Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read
about Brianna.
>> I think Somerset is
in there too.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Jim,

Why are you not selling me your grape?

--Henry


--------------------------------------------
On Mon, 4/3/17, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Monday, April 3, 2017, 8:16 PM

Jay,

    I would almost be willing to bet that my
grape would work for you.  It
has borne a
crop after -44 F.  It has seeds and produces large clusters
of
1/2 to 3/4 inch fruits, pleasantly
sour.

Jim Fruth

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Cutts
Sent: Monday,
April 03, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Henry ; mailing
list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
Experimenters
Subject: Re:
[nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm

group

Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and
it's hard to find a
grape that's
productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling
along.

On a lighter grape
note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table
grape. The fruit was good but
it seemed to
cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why.
(It's a riddle.)

Regards,

Jay

Jay
Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505)-281-0684
10 am to 10 pm
Mt Time, 7 days

On 4/3/2017
10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> I
found this grape research fascinating!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>
>> Subject: Re:
Grapes
>>
>>
Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read
about Brianna.
>> I think Somerset is
in there too.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Monday, April 3, 2017

Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Jay,

I would almost be willing to bet that my grape would work for you. It
has borne a crop after -44 F. It has seeds and produces large clusters of
1/2 to 3/4 inch fruits, pleasantly sour.

Jim Fruth

-----Original Message-----
From: Jay Cutts
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:39 PM
To: Henry ; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
Experimenters
Subject: Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm
group

Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a
grape that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.

On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but
it seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why.
(It's a riddle.)

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505)-281-0684
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days

On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> I found this grape research fascinating!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>
>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>
>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna.
>> I think Somerset is in there too.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a
grape that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.

On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but
it seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why.
(It's a riddle.)

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505)-281-0684
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days

On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> I found this grape research fascinating!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>
>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>
>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna. I think Somerset is in there too.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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[nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

I found this grape research fascinating!

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4

> Subject: Re: Grapes
>
> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna. I think Somerset is in there too.
>
> Lisa
>
https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Friday, March 31, 2017

Re: [nafex] Fofonoff plum aka Homesteader

I asked a Canadian grower who ships CVI fruit to the USA.

He said:

"I put this to the office for their comments...here was the overall consensus:

"'We talked to Wilbert about this variety - he says it's a very old cultivar. I don't foresee it becoming a variety that will be put through the paces to become a virus-tested and available to the US market.'

"Sorry Henry...doesn't seem to be cost effective..."

--Henry Fieldseth
MInneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4


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On Fri, 3/31/17, Henry via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

Subject: [nafex] Fofonoff plum aka Homesteader
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: "Henry" <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 31, 2017, 11:46 AM

This sounds like an interesting
plum.

Do any of you know of a source in the USA? 

Canadian growers would need a virus certified source to ship
to the USA.

--Henry Fieldseth
MInneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4


--------------------------------------------
On Wed, 3/29/17, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com>
wrote:

Subject: Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3
is trying to grow.
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2017, 12:05 AM

Jim, I'm not familiar
with this plum, but it also goes by the name
'Homesteader'.  It is supposed to have a green skin
with a red blush.  I imagine the green turns to a
yellowish
green when it is  fully ripe.   It is sold by
DNA Gardens in Canada.  Some sources say it is hardy to
Zone 2. -- Sam
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