Re: [nafex] raw chestnuts

I would guess that the tannic acid would be in the pellicle. I always remove it before eating the nuts.

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> On Nov 19, 2022, at 7:14 PM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:
>
> I've read some articles that say that raw chestnuts contain tannic acid and may be harmful. Other articles say that's nonsense.
>
> I don't taste any tannic acid at all in raw chestnuts. Wouldn't I detect an astringency if there was even a small amount?
>
> I usually remove the outer husk and then soak the nut for half a day. Then I can remove the skin around the nut. No bitterness. Sometimes I find a nut that doesn't even need soaking because it is still soft. Still no bitterness.
>
> Any insights?
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
>
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> On 8/6/2022 7:25 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
>> Bob,
>>
>> Thanks. This confirms they are worth trying in Minnesota!
>>
>> We will be selling 6 seedlings in a pack, so that should cover the gender issue.
>>
>> Now the difficult task of estimating how many people will want!
>>
>> --Henry Fieldseth
>> Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
>> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
>>
>>
>> On Friday, August 5, 2022, 11:16:31 AM CDT, Bors, Bob <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:
>> Hi Henry,
>>
>> The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
>> In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
>> Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
>> This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not F. Mochata. It did fine.
>>
>> Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
>> Berries can be as big as an inch.
>> It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
>> Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
>> I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
>> I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago. I don't have them anymore.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>>
>> Bob Bors, Ph.D.
>> Assistant Professor
>> Head of the Fruit Program
>> Dept. of Plant Sciences
>> 51 Campus Drive
>> Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
>> www.fruit.usask.ca
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+bob.bors=usask.ca@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf Of Henry via nafex
>> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:33 PM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Cc: Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
>> Subject: [nafex] strawberry info
>>
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>>
>> I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
>>
>> Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.
>>
>> A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.
>>
>> Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.
>>
>> --Henry Fieldseth
>> Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
>> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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[nafex] raw chestnuts

I've read some articles that say that raw chestnuts contain tannic acid
and may be harmful. Other articles say that's nonsense.

I don't taste any tannic acid at all in raw chestnuts.  Wouldn't I
detect an astringency if there was even a small amount?

I usually remove the outer husk and then soak the nut for half a day.
Then I can remove the skin around the nut. No bitterness. Sometimes I
find a nut that doesn't even need soaking because it is still soft.
Still no bitterness.

Any insights?

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
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On 8/6/2022 7:25 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> Bob,
>
> Thanks. This confirms they are worth trying in Minnesota!
>
> We will be selling 6 seedlings in a pack, so that should cover the gender issue.
>
> Now the difficult task of estimating how many people will want!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
>
>
> On Friday, August 5, 2022, 11:16:31 AM CDT, Bors, Bob <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Henry,
>
> The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
> In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
> Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
> This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not  F. Mochata. It did fine.
>
> Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
> Berries can be as big as an inch.
> It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
> Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
> I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
> I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago.  I don't have them anymore.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Bob Bors, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Head of the Fruit Program
> Dept. of Plant Sciences
> 51 Campus Drive
> Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
> www.fruit.usask.ca
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+bob.bors=usask.ca@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf Of Henry via nafex
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [nafex] strawberry info
>
> CAUTION: External to USask. Verify sender and use caution with links and attachments. Forward suspicious emails to phishing@usask.ca
>
>
> I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
>
> Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.
>
> A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.
>
> Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 251, Issue 1

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> American Persimmon
> Diospyros virginiana
> Are any of you growing persimmons in the North?
> Persimmons are listed as Zone 4 hardy. The U of Mn Extension asks if we
> can provide any info on people's experience in Zone 4.
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> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, Zone 4
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> I have persimmon. The root stock variety. (My graft failed)

it makes small fruits. This year also. Ripens late. I have seeds. Rock
City Il. 61070. About 10 miles from Wisconsin
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Re: [nafex] American Persimmon

Buzz Ferver is. Northern VT. https://www.perfectcircle.farm/

Pretty sure persimmon is one he is actively breeding for cold tolerance,
but I could be mistaken.

Pete Chrisbacher


On Wed, Nov 2, 2022 at 12:37 AM Henry via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> American Persimmon
> Diospyros virginiana
> Are any of you growing persimmons in the North?
> Persimmons are listed as Zone 4 hardy. The U of Mn Extension asks if we
> can provide any info on people's experience in Zone 4.
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, Zone 4
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[nafex] American Persimmon

American Persimmon
Diospyros virginiana
Are any of you growing persimmons in the North?
Persimmons are listed as Zone 4 hardy. The U of Mn Extension asks if we can provide any info on people's experience in Zone 4.

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, Zone 4
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