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Wednesday, March 29, 2023

[nafex] Hazelnut Compatibility Questions

I just bought 4 HazelNut trees before learning about self-Incompatibility
Alleles.

From what I have dug up:

York S2 and S21 (only S21 is expressed in Pollen)

Somerset S3 and S10 (S3 is expressed in Pollen)

Hunterdon S1 and S3 (S3 is expressed in Pollen)

Raritan S3 and S22 (S3 is expressed in Pollen)
Will these be able to cross pollinate and provide nuts if I grow them close
together (10 foot)?
Will the seeds express the same alleles (expressed or not) or will
compatibility be determined over time?

Thank you
Dennis
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Tuesday, March 21, 2023

Re: [nafex] 10-10-10 for Ribes (Potassium SULFATE)

Peter

Potasium sulfate is a very high dollar input. I doubt it is in many standard 10-10-10 blends. I usually buy it separately. I have seen it listed on organic or more natural based products like Espoma.

Mark

> On Mar 20, 2023, at 4:19 PM, Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Wood ash
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
> •A Northeast Gardener's Year
> •The Pruning Book
> •Weedless Gardening
> •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
> •Landscaping with Fruit
> •Grow Fruit Naturally
> •Growing Figs in Cold Climates
> • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
>> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:54 PM, Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Greetings All -
>>
>> Every reasonably priced, locally available 10-10-10 fertilizer I have found
>> with my keyboard appears to contain muriate of potash rather than potassium
>> sulfate as its K source. Muriate of potash is identified by many sources
>> as "bad for ribes."
>>
>> Can anyone recommend and identify a source of a good, available, and
>> reasonably priced 10-10-10 that contains potassium sulfate instead of
>> muriate of potash?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> -Pete
>>
>> Pete Chrisbacher
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Monday, March 20, 2023

Re: [nafex] 10-10-10 for Ribes (Potassium SULFATE)

Wood ash

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog
http://leereich.com

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
•A Northeast Gardener's Year
•The Pruning Book
•Weedless Gardening
•Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
•Landscaping with Fruit
•Grow Fruit Naturally
•Growing Figs in Cold Climates
• Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Mar 20, 2023, at 3:54 PM, Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Greetings All -
>
> Every reasonably priced, locally available 10-10-10 fertilizer I have found
> with my keyboard appears to contain muriate of potash rather than potassium
> sulfate as its K source. Muriate of potash is identified by many sources
> as "bad for ribes."
>
> Can anyone recommend and identify a source of a good, available, and
> reasonably priced 10-10-10 that contains potassium sulfate instead of
> muriate of potash?
>
> Thanks
>
> -Pete
>
> Pete Chrisbacher
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[nafex] 10-10-10 for Ribes (Potassium SULFATE)

Greetings All -

Every reasonably priced, locally available 10-10-10 fertilizer I have found
with my keyboard appears to contain muriate of potash rather than potassium
sulfate as its K source. Muriate of potash is identified by many sources
as "bad for ribes."

Can anyone recommend and identify a source of a good, available, and
reasonably priced 10-10-10 that contains potassium sulfate instead of
muriate of potash?

Thanks

-Pete

Pete Chrisbacher
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 258, Issue 1

Prairie Dawn is H55A
Prairie Gen is F-25
Prairie STAR is H-118
Prairie Sun is A-33

Thank you

Clifford England







Thank you

Kum Hui England
England's Orchard and Nursery
2338 Hwy 2004
McKee , KY. 40447-8342
Specializing in Alternative Crops
www.nuttrees.net
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1. Re: Prairie series persimmons (Peter Chrisbacher)
2. Prairie series persimmons (Rosholdt)


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Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2023 22:33:07 -0400
From: Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
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Hi Devin

I do not have the list you are seeking. What I did find when I went back
through my emails was a spreadsheet Jerry shared with me back in 2006
listing all of claypool's varieties including brief descriptive information.

I don't think the spreadsheet contains the information you're after, and I
have to believe Jerry shared later versions of the same spreadsheet with
many others, but let me know if you would like a copy of the version I have
to look through for yourself.

-Pete


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2023 08:47:36 -0400
From: Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Prairie series persimmons
Message-ID: <d7e0cc2b-82aa-107b-4fea-b44981c0ac92@erols.com>
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Devin,

Did you try looking in Pomona?? Members can access the digital archive and
search.? Very powerful.? Also you might check Gary England (England's
Orchard & Nursery) for info about Jerry's stuff.

Barbara Rosholdt

On 3/19/2023 10:05 PM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
> Subject:
> [nafex] Prairie series persimmons
> From:
> Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> Date:
> 3/19/2023, 10:05 PM
>
> To:
> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>
>
> Some years back, before Jerry Lehman?s passing, someone (I?m thinking
Jerry) identified all of the original Claypool varieties that were
eventually trademarked by One Green World as the ?prairie? series
persimmons. I remember making note of it or saving a copy at the time but am
unable to find it. I?ve dug through the archives some, too.?I believe OGW
may be misrepresenting it?s variety ?prairie star? as the Claypool variety
h-118. Cliff England seems to suggest it is h-63A instead. Anyone have this
info anymore?
> Thanks,Devin SmithRockingham, VT
>

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[nafex] Prairie series persimmons

Devin,

Did you try looking in Pomona?  Members can access the digital archive
and search.  Very powerful.  Also you might check Gary England
(England's Orchard & Nursery) for info about Jerry's stuff.

Barbara Rosholdt

On 3/19/2023 10:05 PM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
> Subject:
> [nafex] Prairie series persimmons
> From:
> Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> Date:
> 3/19/2023, 10:05 PM
>
> To:
> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>
>
> Some years back, before Jerry Lehman's passing, someone (I'm thinking Jerry) identified all of the original Claypool varieties that were eventually trademarked by One Green World as the 'prairie' series persimmons. I remember making note of it or saving a copy at the time but am unable to find it. I've dug through the archives some, too. I believe OGW may be misrepresenting it's variety 'prairie star' as the Claypool variety h-118. Cliff England seems to suggest it is h-63A instead. Anyone have this info anymore?
> Thanks,Devin SmithRockingham, VT
>
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Sunday, March 19, 2023

Re: [nafex] Prairie series persimmons

Hi Devin

I do not have the list you are seeking. What I did find when I went back
through my emails was a spreadsheet Jerry shared with me back in 2006
listing all of claypool's varieties including brief descriptive information.

I don't think the spreadsheet contains the information you're after, and I
have to believe Jerry shared later versions of the same spreadsheet with
many others, but let me know if you would like a copy of the version I have
to look through for yourself.

-Pete
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[nafex] Prairie series persimmons

Some years back, before Jerry Lehman's passing, someone (I'm thinking Jerry) identified all of the original Claypool varieties that were eventually trademarked by One Green World as the 'prairie' series persimmons. I remember making note of it or saving a copy at the time but am unable to find it. I've dug through the archives some, too. I believe OGW may be misrepresenting it's variety 'prairie star' as the Claypool variety h-118. Cliff England seems to suggest it is h-63A instead. Anyone have this info anymore?
Thanks,Devin SmithRockingham, VT
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Wednesday, March 8, 2023

Re: [nafex] Grape stems dead?

Thanks, Devin.

Hard to say what side of the trunk was affected because the entire
bottom is bare. This occurred probably mid-summer.

It's odd to me that it wasn't just damage to one part of the bark but
that the bark was just completely gone as if someone had peeled it off
and up.

Regards,

Jay

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On 3/8/2023 2:53 PM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote:
> I'd suspect southwest injury. Looks pretty textbook to my eye.  Did you have any snow or ice on the ground, and might if correspond with roughly the bottom of the damage? What side was the split facing? If it was S or W, I think you might have your answer. A dilute coat of 1/2 white latex paint / 1/2 water has worked for me to prevent this type of damage.
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> Folks,
>
> Anyone know what?s eating my grape vines?
>
> I have six vines. Two of them had the issue shown in the photos. The
> bark at the bottom of the vine is gone, leaving a bare stem. The bark
> above that point seems sort of misshapen.
>
> One of the affected plants had leaves that were fine all season but now
> the vine has broken off at the base. The other plant lost its leaves but
> the vine is still attached.
>
> I?ve included some close-ups of the bark.
>
> Please help! Is this animal damage? Sun damage (I?m in New Mexico and
> the sun is quite strong.) Some bacteria or virus? And what do I do?
> Assuming I get some shoots from the roots, are they infected? Is this
> going to get my other grapes??
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [nafex] Grape stems dead?

I'd suspect southwest injury. Looks pretty textbook to my eye.  Did you have any snow or ice on the ground, and might if correspond with roughly the bottom of the damage? What side was the split facing? If it was S or W, I think you might have your answer. A dilute coat of 1/2 white latex paint / 1/2 water has worked for me to prevent this type of damage.  


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Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 14:17:58 -0700
From: Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Grape stems dead?
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Folks,

Anyone know what?s eating my grape vines?

I have six vines. Two of them had the issue shown in the photos. The
bark at the bottom of the vine is gone, leaving a bare stem. The bark
above that point seems sort of misshapen.

One of the affected plants had leaves that were fine all season but now
the vine has broken off at the base. The other plant lost its leaves but
the vine is still attached.

I?ve included some close-ups of the bark.

Please help! Is this animal damage? Sun damage (I?m in New Mexico and
the sun is quite strong.) Some bacteria or virus? And what do I do?
Assuming I get some shoots from the roots, are they infected? Is this
going to get my other grapes??


--

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505) 281-0684 (landline, no texts)
(505) 717-6394 (cell, text or voicemail)
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2023 14:36:03 -0700
From: Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [nafex] Grape stems dead?
Message-ID: <047708ec-7795-528e-10bd-b14d4e6f14ae@cuttsreviews.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed

Looks like the images didn't carry over.

Here are links to them:

https://www.cuttsreviews.com/grape/grape1.jpg

https://www.cuttsreviews.com/grape/grape2.jpg


https://www.cuttsreviews.com/grape/grape3.jpg

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505) 281-0684 (landline, no texts)
(505) 717-6394 (cell, text or voicemail)
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days

On 3/8/2023 2:17 PM, Jay Cutts wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Anyone know what?s eating my grape vines?
>
> I have six vines. Two of them had the issue shown in the photos. The
> bark at the bottom of the vine is gone, leaving a bare stem. The bark
> above that point seems sort of misshapen.
>
> One of the affected plants had leaves that were fine all season but
> now the vine has broken off at the base. The other plant lost its
> leaves but the vine is still attached.
>
> I?ve included some close-ups of the bark.
>
> Please help! Is this animal damage? Sun damage (I?m in New Mexico and
> the sun is quite strong.) Some bacteria or virus? And what do I do?
> Assuming I get some shoots from the roots, are they infected? Is this
> going to get my other grapes??
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Re: [nafex] Grape stems dead?

Looks like the images didn't carry over.

Here are links to them:

https://www.cuttsreviews.com/grape/grape1.jpg

https://www.cuttsreviews.com/grape/grape2.jpg


https://www.cuttsreviews.com/grape/grape3.jpg

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505) 281-0684 (landline, no texts)
(505) 717-6394 (cell, text or voicemail)
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days

On 3/8/2023 2:17 PM, Jay Cutts wrote:
> Folks,
>
> Anyone know what's eating my grape vines?
>
> I have six vines. Two of them had the issue shown in the photos. The
> bark at the bottom of the vine is gone, leaving a bare stem. The bark
> above that point seems sort of misshapen.
>
> One of the affected plants had leaves that were fine all season but
> now the vine has broken off at the base. The other plant lost its
> leaves but the vine is still attached.
>
> I've included some close-ups of the bark.
>
> Please help! Is this animal damage? Sun damage (I'm in New Mexico and
> the sun is quite strong.) Some bacteria or virus? And what do I do?
> Assuming I get some shoots from the roots, are they infected? Is this
> going to get my other grapes??
>
>
>
>
>
>

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[nafex] Grape stems dead?

Folks,

Anyone know what's eating my grape vines?

I have six vines. Two of them had the issue shown in the photos. The
bark at the bottom of the vine is gone, leaving a bare stem. The bark
above that point seems sort of misshapen.

One of the affected plants had leaves that were fine all season but now
the vine has broken off at the base. The other plant lost its leaves but
the vine is still attached.

I've included some close-ups of the bark.

Please help! Is this animal damage? Sun damage (I'm in New Mexico and
the sun is quite strong.) Some bacteria or virus? And what do I do?
Assuming I get some shoots from the roots, are they infected? Is this
going to get my other grapes??


--

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505) 281-0684 (landline, no texts)
(505) 717-6394 (cell, text or voicemail)
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days
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