Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] Hybrid D. kaki?

Please excuse this post, I was in my drafts folder and inadvertantly hit
'send'

On 5/1/2019 10:34 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:
> On 11/29/2011 10:18 PM, Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
>> Is the seed very flat or normal like normal persimmon seeds? If
>> normal looking, it likely isn't a hybrid and rescue shouldn't be needed.
>
> I have been off e-mail for awhile, sorry for the belated reply.
>
> When I view the kaki seed alongside 'wild' D. virginiana, I see that
> the kaki seed is of a similar shape, but larger and flatter. The kaki
> seed is 21 mm long compared to 18 - 19 mm of teh virginiana. Kaki is
> 14mm wide compaed to 11mm of the virginiana seed
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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] Hybrid D. kaki?

On 11/29/2011 10:18 PM, Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
> Is the seed very flat or normal like normal persimmon seeds? If normal
> looking, it likely isn't a hybrid and rescue shouldn't be needed.

I have been off e-mail for awhile, sorry for the belated reply.

When I view the kaki seed alongside 'wild' D. virginiana, I see that the
kaki seed is of a similar shape, but larger and flatter. The kaki seed
is 21 mm long compared to 18 - 19 mm of teh virginiana. Kaki is 14mm
wide compaed to 11mm of the virginiana seed

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Re: [nafex] wet rootstock?

Not sure I understand the question. Waite

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Henry Feldseth via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> This question came up on a post about apples. I have no idea.
>
> "What do you have coming on wet root rootstock as the garden surface is 2 feet to the surface water table?"
>
> Anything to recommend?
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Saint Paul, Minnesota. Zone 4
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[nafex] wet rootstock?

This question came up on a post about apples. I have no idea.

"What do you have coming on wet root rootstock as the garden surface is 2 feet to the surface water table?"

Anything to recommend?

--Henry Fieldseth
Saint Paul, Minnesota. Zone 4
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

Any idea where to get Charlotte strawberry plants? They are sold out
everywhere online. Is there a legal issue, or are they just popular?

-Pete

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 9:46 PM mark wessel <growyourown@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The aroma is incredible. I picked some and put the basket in my truck.
> When I got in the aroma was overwhelming. Flavor is was decent. Seemed like
> a pastry chefs dream fruit for finishing a dish. Foliar diseases plagued
> them but they seemed to carry on. There is a variety from france, Charlotte
> that has MDB for a parent. It is a day neutral with larger fruits, disease
> resistance and an intense candy strawberry flavor. It is our farm favorite.
> Fragrant as well.
>
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and
> flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
> > ________________________________
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> Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> > Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:20 AM
> > To: NAFEX email discussion group
> > Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully
> flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real
> gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally
> stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries
> he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his
> alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
> >>
> >> Melissa
> >>
> >
> > I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.
> >
> > Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have
> a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.
> >
> >
> > -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> > Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

The aroma is incredible. I picked some and put the basket in my truck. When I got in the aroma was overwhelming. Flavor is was decent. Seemed like a pastry chefs dream fruit for finishing a dish. Foliar diseases plagued them but they seemed to carry on. There is a variety from france, Charlotte that has MDB for a parent. It is a day neutral with larger fruits, disease resistance and an intense candy strawberry flavor. It is our farm favorite. Fragrant as well.

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
> ________________________________
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:20 AM
> To: NAFEX email discussion group
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry
>
>
>
>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>
> I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.
>
> Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.
>
>
> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
>
>
>
>
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

I was not impressed by their flavor.

Lee
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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to find out your experience growing Mara des Bois strawberry. the relatively new day-neutral cultivar developed in France. Please include your zone and city and state in your reply. Thanks!
> thanks. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>
> Here's what one nursery's catalog (Jung) says about it:
> Mara Des Bois Strawberry
> A specialty strawberry developed in France. The small to medium size berries are bright red with a high gloss and are blessed with the highest flavor and fragrance of any strawberry variety. Planted in the spring, it begins bearing during the summer and into the fall. The following year it produces a good spring crop with continued lighter production all season. Excellent for container culture, too. Ideal for home gardeners or commercial applications where high taste and fragrance is required.
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