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[nafex] Vanilla in an apple
Mark Lee:
Last year I had my first Macoun apples, from Feil Pioneer Fruit Stand in E. Wenatchee, WA. The vanilla was aroma was an unexpected bonus. Don't know if it generally happens across the country. I hope to get some (ought to be ripe now in these parts) locally soon and find out.
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Last year I had my first Macoun apples, from Feil Pioneer Fruit Stand in E. Wenatchee, WA. The vanilla was aroma was an unexpected bonus. Don't know if it generally happens across the country. I hope to get some (ought to be ripe now in these parts) locally soon and find out.
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Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 6:24 AM, Chris Garriss <cgarriss@garriss.net> wrote:
> I've no idea the regular usage of Facebook, but I can say I do not use
> Facebook. Several reasons for that including security and privacy. And
> bandwidth needed for content with high graphic content.
>
> The Facebook page must be very active since this list seems pretty active,
> plus there are many more "lurkers" like me that pick up a great deal of
> information.
>
> The list allows me to reasonably get information on slower sources. There
> are quite a few of us in rural areas that have no DSL or cable internet
> access.
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> Speaking to both cable and phone companies, cable says service
> will never be extended to my area; phone company says DSL will not be
> available within the next 10 years, and perhaps never. Satellite is very
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> I've no idea the regular usage of Facebook, but I can say I do not use
> Facebook. Several reasons for that including security and privacy. And
> bandwidth needed for content with high graphic content.
>
> The Facebook page must be very active since this list seems pretty active,
> plus there are many more "lurkers" like me that pick up a great deal of
> information.
>
> The list allows me to reasonably get information on slower sources. There
> are quite a few of us in rural areas that have no DSL or cable internet
> access.
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bandwidth required for file attachments.
> Speaking to both cable and phone companies, cable says service
> will never be extended to my area; phone company says DSL will not be
> available within the next 10 years, and perhaps never. Satellite is very
> expensive, especially on a fixed income. Cellular is spotty in many rural
> areas - which includes 15 miles SE of Raleigh NC.
>
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Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
I've no idea the regular usage of Facebook, but I can say I do not use
Facebook. Several reasons for that including security and privacy. And
bandwidth needed for content with high graphic content.
The Facebook page must be very active since this list seems pretty active,
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areas - which includes 15 miles SE of Raleigh NC.
On Sep 22, 2014 11:08 AM, "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
> Curious how many folks on this mailing list are not on Facebook and
> consequently not reading the NAFEX Facebook group? The facebook group
> at this point is far more active than this list plus it has the
> advantage that folks can easily post photos. There is also an endless
> stream of growing reports and questions being posted there.
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Facebook. Several reasons for that including security and privacy. And
bandwidth needed for content with high graphic content.
The Facebook page must be very active since this list seems pretty active,
plus there are many more "lurkers" like me that pick up a great deal of
information.
The list allows me to reasonably get information on slower sources. There
are quite a few of us in rural areas that have no DSL or cable internet
access. Speaking to both cable and phone companies, cable says service
will never be extended to my area; phone company says DSL will not be
available within the next 10 years, and perhaps never. Satellite is very
expensive, especially on a fixed income. Cellular is spotty in many rural
areas - which includes 15 miles SE of Raleigh NC.
On Sep 22, 2014 11:08 AM, "mIEKAL aND" <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
> Curious how many folks on this mailing list are not on Facebook and
> consequently not reading the NAFEX Facebook group? The facebook group
> at this point is far more active than this list plus it has the
> advantage that folks can easily post photos. There is also an endless
> stream of growing reports and questions being posted there.
>
> ~mIEKAL
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Re: [nafex] NAFEX on Facebook
On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 8:37 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:
wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 4:50 PM, Andre Pierre <hello@protocol6.com> wrote:
>
>> Sites like Facebook and Google are not *just* convenient tools. They are
>> big corporations that often (usually?) have questionable patterns of
>> behavior.
>> To use them, and to actively encourage others to use them, is to endorse
>> such behaviors, or at best to turn a blind eye to them.
>>
>> For Facebook the list is pretty extensive and in my view damning:
>> https://stallman.org/facebook.html.
>>
>
More about this, found tonight after going down a rabbit hole in a blog to
some very interesting pages:
The Facebook Bully
Judge an online community by how well it protects its most vulnerable users.
https://medium.com/@jomc/the-facebook-bully-d7a16f6ede38
"Earlier this year, Google Plus abandoned its real-name policy as it created
<http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/07/17/google_plus_finally_ditches_its_ineffective_dangerous_real_name_policy.html>
"unnecessarily difficult experiences for some of our users." This was an
opportunity likewise for Facebook to revise its approach to community
management. But the meeting was doomed from the start. Facebook apparently
had no intention of negotiating because the policy was crafted for the sale
of targeted ads not for the safety of human beings with complex identities."
>
> I did not realize what FB was up to until I read this news today:
> <>
> Ello's thinly veiled rebuke to Facebook: 'Your social network is owned by
> advertisers. Every post you share, every friend you make and every link you
> follow is tracked, recorded and converted into data.'
>
> SAN FRANCISCO (MarketWatch) — There has been a lot of chatter on social
> media this week about a new social network called Ello, which is getting
> buzz for its anti-Facebook Inc. stance. But is the start-up, which accepts
> no advertising and does no data mining, ready for prime time?
>
> Ello has apparently been gaining such a huge influx of new users that its
> servers were having problems in the past two days, despite the requirement
> that you need an invitation to join. As Ello tells users who visit its
> simple, clean, black-and-white site: It has a "manifesto."
>
> "Your social network is owned by advertisers," reads Ello's "about" page.
> <https://ello.co/wtf/post/about> "Every post you share, every friend you
> make and every link you follow is tracked, recorded and converted into
> data. Advertisers buy your data so they can show you more ads. You are the
> product that's bought and sold. ... We believe there is a better way."
>
> <>
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Sunday, September 28, 2014
Re: [nafex] Rugosa and canina roses
David, thanks for the leads. what's the eglanteria roses that you mention?
~mIEKAL
On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:36 PM, david liezen wrote:
> mIEKAL,
> I know little about shipping and planting roses in fall, but these sources may prove useful to you:
>
> Raintree in WA state has Frau Dagmar in their catalog; 1-800-391-8892.
>
> Greenmantle nursery in northern CA has 50+ types of roses, including Frau Dagmar, and other rugosas, 1 canina. You'll need to call 707-986-7504 (your dime.) She can probably steer you straight for a hip crop.
>
> forestfarm.com has Frau Dagmar, canina and eglanteria roses, $10/tube (narrow and tall shipping carton for deeper roots, I surmise.)
>
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~mIEKAL
On Sep 28, 2014, at 6:36 PM, david liezen wrote:
> mIEKAL,
> I know little about shipping and planting roses in fall, but these sources may prove useful to you:
>
> Raintree in WA state has Frau Dagmar in their catalog; 1-800-391-8892.
>
> Greenmantle nursery in northern CA has 50+ types of roses, including Frau Dagmar, and other rugosas, 1 canina. You'll need to call 707-986-7504 (your dime.) She can probably steer you straight for a hip crop.
>
> forestfarm.com has Frau Dagmar, canina and eglanteria roses, $10/tube (narrow and tall shipping carton for deeper roots, I surmise.)
>
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[nafex] Rugosa and canina roses
mIEKAL,
I know little about shipping and planting roses in fall, but these sources may prove useful to you:
Raintree in WA state has Frau Dagmar in their catalog; 1-800-391-8892.
Greenmantle nursery in northern CA has 50+ types of roses, including Frau Dagmar, and other rugosas, 1 canina. You'll need to call 707-986-7504 (your dime.) She can probably steer you straight for a hip crop.
forestfarm.com has Frau Dagmar, canina and eglanteria roses, $10/tube (narrow and tall shipping carton for deeper roots, I surmise.)
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I know little about shipping and planting roses in fall, but these sources may prove useful to you:
Raintree in WA state has Frau Dagmar in their catalog; 1-800-391-8892.
Greenmantle nursery in northern CA has 50+ types of roses, including Frau Dagmar, and other rugosas, 1 canina. You'll need to call 707-986-7504 (your dime.) She can probably steer you straight for a hip crop.
forestfarm.com has Frau Dagmar, canina and eglanteria roses, $10/tube (narrow and tall shipping carton for deeper roots, I surmise.)
Dave Liezen
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