Your description of your local climate sounds very familiar indeed. Quite similar story here. Historically I've read we had in the neighborhood of 130 frost free days on a good site in my neck of the woods. I've been here for 16 years and most years we've had more like 150 days. A couple of exceptional years we've had probably 165. I figure on mid-May to mid-Oct. for tender things, with a killing frost occurring a week or two on either side. Most things need to be picked by Nov. 1 at the latest, as we'll have low-mid twenties by then, and it's very overcast, so not much ripening potential to wring out of those short days.
I'd long ago given up on the idea of growing Maypops outdoors, but I'm almost tempted to try that too! I think they'll be a shoe in for the high tunnel!
It sounds like yours has good flavor, so count me in. I'd love it if you'd send me a fruit or two and a few root cuttings or suckers this fall. Then I could grow some out from seed and hopefully get a clone or two of your patch. I gather that self-pollination is spotty at best on these, so best to try for at least 2 varieties. I'd happily return the favor in whatever manner you'd prefer. I have some really nice native perennial Physalis that you might like. I love the fruit but unfortunately have some pest issues that seem to put a big dent in my harvest lately. Lots of other stuff too. If not, I could at least pay the postage.
-Devin
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
On Monday, August 15, 2022, 8:38 AM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org wrote:
Send nafex mailing list submissions to
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org
You can reach the person managing the list at
nafex-owner@lists.ibiblio.org
When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..."
Today's Topics:
1. Re: nafex Digest, Vol 249, Issue 1 (Richard Moyer)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 08:38:09 -0400
From: Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 249, Issue 1
Message-ID:
<CAE3bTdKHO75ui=D_m7x5rCeojxYctm3_J+dXcBYrn8OpJ2jbhQ@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Devin, I plant tomatoes and peppers last week of May, even first week of
June. Because we often have killing freezes the second and third week of
May. Frost free season can be as short as 3rd week May to 3rd week Sept.
And as long as 3rd week April (very rare) to 1st week Nov. (also rare). As
I mentioned, our maypops, due to protected microclimate, routinely ripen
fruit through Oct, into Nov.
Flavor tastes like passion fruit juices we buy from the store. I've not
compared any P. incarnata selections side by side, am only growing this
local source.
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 7:39 AM <nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> Send nafex mailing list submissions to
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> nafex-owner@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..."
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: maypops (Devin Smith)
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2022 11:38:02 +0000 (UTC)
> Subject: Re: [nafex] maypops
> Thanks for the replies.
> Let us know how the fruit is, Lawrence. Having done some more reading and
> poking around online, it seems that there is (unsurprisingly) a lot of
> variation in size and flavor. I?d like to get a hold of the best material I
> can.
> How do your fruits size up, Richard, and how is the flavor. It sounds like
> you are at elevation there, especially with the vines emerging so late. A
> YouTuber (author of recent pawpaw book) in Tenn. says his usually emerge in
> May, but have come up as early as March for him!How many frost free days
> are typical at your place? Probably harder to guesstimate, and even more
> site dependent, but do you any idea how many growing degree days you have?
> Just trying to get a sense how our climates compare. Offhand, I?d say we?re
> not THAT MUCH different based on your brief description.
> -Devin
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Sunday, August 14, 2022, 5:50 PM, nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org
> wrote:
>
> Send nafex mailing list submissions to
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> You can reach the person managing the list at
> nafex-owner@lists.ibiblio.org
>
> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific
> than "Re: Contents of nafex digest..."
>
>
> Today's Topics:
>
> 1. Re: Maypops: nafex Digest, Vol 248, Issue 3 (Richard Moyer)
> 2. Re: Maypops (Lawrence London)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 17:47:58 -0400
> From: Richard Moyer <ramoyer@gmail.com>
> To: nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Maypops: nafex Digest, Vol 248, Issue 3
> Message-ID:
> <CAE3bTdJxh+1kA3NtZ3dCcfE4ztQc95bC=XDpjhxT1cE3dTB4QQ@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 5:37 PM <nafex-request@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> > Devin,
> >
> We live in the S. Appalachian Mountains, where *record* daytime highs oft
> in the low 90s, where most summer temps in 80s/60s. This week is 70s/50s.
>
> Our P. incarnata don't typically sprout until July, when soil temps warm
> enough. We train them up the NE side of our house, and this microclimate
> allows them to ripen in Oct, outside. They are surprisingly frost
> resistant. And a great native bumblebee food source.
>
> Glad to send you some seed/root cuttings, if you remind me (more than
> once?) during dormant season,
> Richard Moyer
>
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> > 1. Maypops (Devin Smith)
> >
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> > From: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> > To: <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Cc:
> > Bcc:
> > Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 21:35:55 +0000 (UTC)
> > Subject: [nafex] Maypops
> > Always great to see this list still alive!
> > Having recently erected a fairly large high tunnel here in SE Vermont,
> > I?m eager to try my hand at growing some ?marginal? (for this climate)
> > fruiting plants. One I?ve always wanted to try growing is Maypop-
> > Passiflora incarnata.
> > Are any of you growing Maypops successfully in a northern locale, and if
> > so do you have any recommendations in terms of genetics / strains to seek
> > out? Might anyone have root sprouts of known good performers to share ?
> > I?m glad to try my hand at growing some out from seed as well. I see that
> > the Experimental Farming Network is trying to do some crowd-sourced crop
> > improvement and selection. Perhaps I?ll try to get involved. I?d love any
> > advice or germplasm anyone here might have to offer.
> > Thanks,
> > Devin SmithRockingham, VT
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 14 Aug 2022 14:49:23 -0700
> From: Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Maypops
> Message-ID:
> <CA+j2Q+DzKi2ht2YJNwNCF4eCz94a_2qzWYRpm8uucKJH+Nf19w@mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
>
> On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 2:36 PM Devin Smith via nafex <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> > Always great to see this list still alive!
> > Having recently erected a fairly large high tunnel here in SE Vermont,
> > I?m eager to try my hand at growing some ?marginal? (for this climate)
> > fruiting plants. One I?ve always wanted to try growing is Maypop-
> > Passiflora incarnata.
> > Are any of you growing Maypops successfully in a northern locale, and if
> > so do you have any recommendations in terms of genetics / strains to seek
> > out? Might anyone have root sprouts of known good performers to share ?
> > I?m glad to try my hand at growing some out from seed as well. I see that
> > the Experimental Farming Network is trying to do some crowd-sourced crop
> > improvement and selection. Perhaps I?ll try to get involved. I?d love any
> > advice or germplasm anyone here might have to offer.
> > Thanks,
> > Devin SmithRockingham, VT
> >
>
> This list will remain available to all who want to use it.
>
> I have some wild maypops fruiting out at the edge of a wooded area on my
> property. It has been here for decades and always seems to come back each
> year.
> When it is ripe I will try it.
>
> LL
> Chapel Hill NC
>
> >
> > __________________
> > nafex mailing list
> > nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> > Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> > subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info:
> > https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
> >
>
>
> --
> Lawrence F. London, Jr.
> lfljvenaura@gmail.com
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Subject: Digest Footer
>
> __________________
> nafex mailing list
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info:
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> End of nafex Digest, Vol 248, Issue 5
> *************************************
>
>
>
>
> __________________
> nafex mailing list
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info:
> https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
>
------------------------------
Subject: Digest Footer
__________________
nafex mailing list
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info:
https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
------------------------------
End of nafex Digest, Vol 249, Issue 2
*************************************
__________________
nafex mailing list
nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
subscribe/unsubscribe|user config|list info:
https://lists.ibiblio.org/mailman/listinfo/nafex
