Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Jay,

I would almost be willing to bet that my grape would work for you. It
has borne a crop after -44 F. It has seeds and produces large clusters of
1/2 to 3/4 inch fruits, pleasantly sour.

Jim Fruth

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From: Jay Cutts
Sent: Monday, April 03, 2017 12:39 PM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm
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Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a
grape that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.

On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but
it seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why.
(It's a riddle.)

Regards,

Jay

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On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> I found this grape research fascinating!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>
>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>
>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna.
>> I think Somerset is in there too.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Re: [nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

Thanks for this, Henry. I live at 7000 feet and it's hard to find a
grape that's productive. I have King of the North and it's struggling along.

On a lighter grape note April 1st was the anniversary of my successful
intergeneric cross of Zingiber and a table grape. The fruit was good but
it seemed to cause gum disease. A prize to whoever can figure out why.
(It's a riddle.)

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
(505)-281-0684
10 am to 10 pm Mt Time, 7 days

On 4/3/2017 10:04 AM, Henry via nafex wrote:
> I found this grape research fascinating!
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4
>
>> Subject: Re: Grapes
>>
>> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna. I think Somerset is in there too.
>>
>> Lisa
>>
> https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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[nafex] thesis on cold climate grapes found via local farm group

I found this grape research fascinating!

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4

> Subject: Re: Grapes
>
> Here is my thesis on cold climate grapes, so you can read about Brianna. I think Somerset is in there too.
>
> Lisa
>
https://store.extension.iastate.edu/Product/A-Review-of-Cold-Climate-Grape-Cultivars-pdf
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Re: [nafex] Fofonoff plum aka Homesteader

I asked a Canadian grower who ships CVI fruit to the USA.

He said:

"I put this to the office for their comments...here was the overall consensus:

"'We talked to Wilbert about this variety - he says it's a very old cultivar. I don't foresee it becoming a variety that will be put through the paces to become a virus-tested and available to the US market.'

"Sorry Henry...doesn't seem to be cost effective..."

--Henry Fieldseth
MInneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4

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On Fri, 3/31/17, Henry via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

Subject: [nafex] Fofonoff plum aka Homesteader
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Cc: "Henry" <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
Date: Friday, March 31, 2017, 11:46 AM

This sounds like an interesting
plum.

Do any of you know of a source in the USA? 

Canadian growers would need a virus certified source to ship
to the USA.

--Henry Fieldseth
MInneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4


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On Wed, 3/29/17, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3
is trying to grow.
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
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Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2017, 12:05 AM

Jim, I'm not familiar
with this plum, but it also goes by the name
'Homesteader'.  It is supposed to have a green skin
with a red blush.  I imagine the green turns to a
yellowish
green when it is  fully ripe.   It is sold by
DNA Gardens in Canada.  Some sources say it is hardy to
Zone 2. -- Sam
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[nafex] Fofonoff plum aka Homesteader

This sounds like an interesting plum.

Do any of you know of a source in the USA?

Canadian growers would need a virus certified source to ship to the USA.

--Henry Fieldseth
MInneapolis, Minnesota, zone 4

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On Wed, 3/29/17, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Wednesday, March 29, 2017, 12:05 AM

Jim, I'm not familiar
with this plum, but it also goes by the name
'Homesteader'.  It is supposed to have a green skin
with a red blush.  I imagine the green turns to a yellowish
green when it is  fully ripe.   It is sold by
DNA Gardens in Canada.  Some sources say it is hardy to
Zone 2. -- Sam
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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.

Here is a link to an article referencing a long term underground greenhouse
project in Montana.

http://www.realworldsurvivor.com/2013/10/28/underground-greenhouses/#geogreenhouse2

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Subject: Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to
grow.

On 3/29/2017 12:13 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
> Can't be too crazy of an idea. I heard of a zone 3 fellow who grows a
> peach in an underground silo. He removes the cover during the growing
> season and puts it back on for the dormant season.
That is a novel idea but I don't believe entirely new. Some years back
and I recall on a NAFEX annual meeting while visiting Canada we saw long
cinder block buildings with walls about 10 foot high and movable clear
plastic tops. They were growing Actinidia deliciosa, kiwi fruit you see
in grocery stores. In the enclosure they would break dormancy and bloom.
As I recall they had bees internally for pollination. Then as the
outdoor temperatures raised which were acceptable to the kiwi the tops
were slid back. This was research to see if it could be done
economically to compete with California kiwi industry.

Near Altamont, Illinois there was a member of the Illinois nut growers
(deceased maybe 15 years) who had a long lean to greenhouse along the
south side of his barn. This greenhouse was maybe 100 foot long 20 foot
wide and 15 foot high. In this he planted kaki persimmons in the ground
which afforded him ample winter protection and successfully fruited kakis.

Jerry


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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.

On 3/29/2017 12:13 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
> Can't be too crazy of an idea. I heard of a zone 3 fellow who grows a
> peach in an underground silo. He removes the cover during the growing
> season and puts it back on for the dormant season.
That is a novel idea but I don't believe entirely new. Some years back
and I recall on a NAFEX annual meeting while visiting Canada we saw long
cinder block buildings with walls about 10 foot high and movable clear
plastic tops. They were growing Actinidia deliciosa, kiwi fruit you see
in grocery stores. In the enclosure they would break dormancy and bloom.
As I recall they had bees internally for pollination. Then as the
outdoor temperatures raised which were acceptable to the kiwi the tops
were slid back. This was research to see if it could be done
economically to compete with California kiwi industry.

Near Altamont, Illinois there was a member of the Illinois nut growers
(deceased maybe 15 years) who had a long lean to greenhouse along the
south side of his barn. This greenhouse was maybe 100 foot long 20 foot
wide and 15 foot high. In this he planted kaki persimmons in the ground
which afforded him ample winter protection and successfully fruited kakis.

Jerry


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