Re: [nafex] Honey Locust

Devin,

Don't know if you have visited the Honey Locust Agroforestry website but it does have some good info. I have spoken to Andy Wilson in the past and he sounds pretty knowledgeable but the website and honey locusts may be a passing interest for him. However the info they have online is actually pretty good. This link may help answer your question about honey locust pollination.

http://faculty.virginia.edu/honeylocust-agroforestry/agroforestry/HoneylocustAgroforestry.htm

Jim Elie

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Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust

I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust.
Consider me interested.
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[nafex] Honey Locust

I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust.
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Re: [nafex] Pawpaws

Wow! Very interesting list! I am liking my northern pecans!

-Pete


Pete Chrisbacher
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On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
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> Very interesting.
>
> This report has a larger list of foods high in Proanthocyanidins in Table
> 1. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/3/613.long#T1
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>
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> On 11/4/2014 4:35 AM, Larry D. Cook via nafex wrote:
>
>> I didn't know this about Pawpaw
>> Larry D. Cook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble
>> vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and
>> pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain
>> condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria
>> from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are
>> particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a
>> host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and
>>
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Re: [nafex] Pawpaws

Very interesting.

This report has a larger list of foods high in Proanthocyanidins in
Table 1. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/3/613.long#T1


On 11/4/2014 4:35 AM, Larry D. Cook via nafex wrote:
> I didn't know this about Pawpaw
> Larry D. Cook
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and
>
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[nafex] Pawpaws

I didn't know this about Pawpaw
Larry D. Cook






In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and

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[nafex] medlar bletting

I noticed my breda giant medlars starting to drop a bit today so picked them all. Happy to see they sized up a lot more-- almost all over 1 1/2" many not quite 2"-- almost double the size of last years and more like what I would hope for from a proclaimed "giant."
Last years crop was more so a disappointment because the fruit failed to blet properly, and instead dessicated and shriveled. After a couple years of successful bletting, I thought the process was pretty fail safe, but apparently didn't "do it right." It seems this may be a somewhat poorly understood area. I think of the numerous claims that frost is required to sweeten certain fruits, which as a northern grower skrimping for degree days on some of these fruits, seems clearly bogus. That said, I did leave a couple medlars on a tree accidentally through much of the winter. If I remember correctly, I found them during a thaw in March or so. They were perfectly bletted and as delicious as any I've had. And surprisingly moist. What exactly is going on inside the medlar-- fermentation of some kind I assume, and what are the optimal conditions for this to take place? I assume they can be refrigerated for a good while and bletted in batches if need be.
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Re: [nafex] Martha Davis

Thank you Jerry for the great suggestion. I think naming a fruit variety in here honor would be wonderful! If this comes to pass, please let us know. Would you be able to to do a short article on it in Pomona at some point?

Robert


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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:35 AM, Jwlehman--- via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:





Martha was a dear friend and supporter of NAFEX and MidFEX The Chicago area
fruit explorers. Martha several times drove from Chicago, three hour drive
along with Oriana Kruszewski and spent the day evaluating persimmons in
the Jim Claypool persimmon breeding orchard. Some days were all day and then
overnighted in Effingham, IL to return the next day. Martha served as
NAFEX Secretary for several years and was also an officer in MidFEX.

She was a tireless friend of fruit explorers every where. We have lost a
dear friend.

There are some very good persimmon varieties from Mr. Claypool's work.
Considering her work with Claypool persimmons I think it would be appropriate
to name one of his best in Martha's honor. I'll take this thought and
consult with a few Indiana Nut & Fruit Growers very familure with his best
varieties and we will name one in her honor.

Jerry Lehman
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