Re: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry

Does Morus alba cv. 'Geraldi Dwarf' stay dwarfed when grafted unto a
typical M. alba rootstock.. a few feet above ground? I like to bury the
graft union when dealing with dwarfs to maintain this characteristic; just
buried the union on my M. latifolia 'Kokuso-20' and in the past had done so
with me M. nigra 'Black Beauty' (doing well so far; NJ Zone 6b/7a.. a few
years and just a few fruit this year; not vigorous.. buried the union.)

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net> wrote:

> I live 100miles southwest of Atlanta. Winter of 2014 low temp was 12
> degrees for a short while and then not over 32 all day. Winter of 2015 had
> low of 11 degrees for a short while and not over
> 32 all that day. No die back at all, none, then the Pakistan began to
> leaf out in late Feb during a warm-up. Then we had a few more frosts and
> most all leaves fell. It did put out new growth and
> there were a few fruit this year. I would say this happens 3 out 4
> years, but when it does come to a full fruiting year it is loaded. The
> tree is 15 years old and over 30 feet tall and still growing,
> wish I had kept it pruned. I have a 'Geraldi' dwarf mulberry, same age,
> heavy producer over a long period of time. A black fruit with good taste,
> for a small yard it is an ideal.
>
> Lester H. Davis
> Columbus, GA
>
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> From: "Devin Smith via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:08:45 PM
> Subject: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry
>
> I have been thinking about trialing Pakistan mulberry here in Vermont. I
> understand that it is a real long shot, but given the fact that much of the
> limitation seems to revolve around 'low chill' requirment, it might just
> work. Hardiness-wise, I understand Atlanta area saw sub-zero temps. for a
> couple of nights this past winter. Did those of you in the south who are
> growing Pakistan experience severe dieback this winter? I'm thinking that
> our winter weather is consistent enough that the trees would stay dormant,
> and then I could 1. grow them on the own roots so they can resprout if need
> be and 2. plant in a protected spot with some extra protection as people do
> with figs. They sure are delicious, so I think its worth a shot.
>
> I also noticed perusing the GRIN database that several other similar
> selections are available, listed as Morus macroura or 'himalayan mulberry.'
> One in particular DMOR 9 looks similar to 'pakistan', though a bit
> scrawnier, and the description seems to suggest zone 5 hardiness, though on
> second look I noticed this is merely a snippet from a seed savers exchange
> write-up about the species. Anyone know anything about hardy higher-chill
> macroura selections that might be a good stand in for
> 'pakistan'?
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