Re: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry

I live 100miles southwest of Atlanta.  Winter of 2014 low temp was 12 degrees for a short while and then not over 32 all day.  Winter of 2015 had low of 11 degrees for a short while and not over
32 all that day.   No die back at all, none, then the Pakistan began to leaf out in late Feb during a warm-up.   Then we had a few more frosts and most all leaves fell.   It did put out new growth and
there were a few fruit this year.   I would say this happens 3 out 4 years, but when it does come to  a full fruiting year it is loaded.   The tree is 15 years old and over 30 feet tall and still growing,
wish I had kept it pruned.   I have a 'Geraldi' dwarf mulberry, same age, heavy producer over a long period of time.  A black fruit with good taste, for a small yard it is an ideal.  
 
Lester H. Davis
Columbus, GA

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From: "Devin Smith via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
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Cc: "Devin Smith" <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:08:45 PM
Subject: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry

I have been thinking about trialing Pakistan mulberry here in Vermont. I understand that it is a real long shot, but given the fact that much of the limitation seems to revolve around 'low chill' requirment, it might just work. Hardiness-wise, I understand Atlanta area saw sub-zero temps. for a couple of nights this past winter. Did those of you in the south who are growing Pakistan experience severe dieback this winter? I'm thinking that our winter weather is consistent enough that the trees would stay dormant, and then I could 1. grow them on the own roots so they can resprout if need be and 2. plant in a protected spot with some extra protection as people do with figs. They sure are delicious, so I think its worth a shot.

I also noticed perusing the GRIN database that several other similar selections are available, listed as Morus macroura or 'himalayan mulberry.' One in particular DMOR 9  looks similar to 'pakistan', though a bit scrawnier, and the description seems to suggest zone 5 hardiness, though on second look I noticed this is merely a snippet from a seed savers exchange write-up about the species. Anyone know anything about hardy higher-chill macroura selections that might be a good stand in for
'pakistan'?
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