[nafex] Not true

"Black fruit target only the local birds," Local birds are not a problem. Migrating birds are all the problem.

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From: Melissa Kacalanos
Sent: Friday, January 29, 2016 7:35 AM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Saving cherries from the birds (Good Fruit Grower)

Maybe red beads would work even for the black fruit.

I heard that red and black fruit have different seed dispersal strategies. Red fruit are obviously very showy, attracting all the fruit-eaters. Black fruit target only the local birds, not the ones that are just passing through, by turning red and conspicuous before they're ripe, so local animals make a mental note to come back for them later. Then when they ripen, they turn inconspicuously black, so only the animals that are in-the-know can find them. This ensures that the seeds are dropped somewhat locally, where they are adapted.

I don't know if this is true or not, but I can't think of a different explanation for why any plant would have fruit that are inconspicuous when ripe.

Melissa

Sent from my iPhone (pardon my brevity).

> On Jan 29, 2016, at 12:17 AM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:
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> I can kind of see why black doesn't work. Red is a strong color that stands out in nature so that birds would be attracted to the color, as it indicates ripeness. Birds may not be attracted to the color per se of black berries, as lots of things are very dark colored in nature.
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>> On 1/28/2016 8:08 PM, Jim Fruth wrote:
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>> I grow sour cherries and have ZERO bird problems. Why? I hang red plastic 'cherries' in the trees and leave them in the tree the whole year around, replacing them as they fade. Also, I put red painted stones in the strawberries as soon as blooming is finished. The birds peck on the rocks, hurt their beaks and don't come back. AND I hang raspberry shaped berry beads around the perimeter of the red raspberry patch as soon as blooming is done. It doesn't work 100% but it helps. Black berry beads do not work with blackberry and black raspberry and I don't know why not.
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>> -----Original Message----- From: Brungardt, Sam (MPCA)
>> Sent: Thursday, January 28, 2016 9:16 AM
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>> Subject: [nafex] Saving cherries from the birds (Good Fruit Grower)
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