Re: [nafex] trezibond date

That is indeed what they look like.

There is one seed per fruit, about 3/4 inch long and less than 1/4 inch wide, with longitudinal grooves.

I was told to eat them as they were (dried), there was no mention of any cooking. Pealing them was messy and counterproductive.

They were called "sultan iğde" (to my ear, pronounced: ee day). According to my Turkish friend, iğde alone refers to the genus /Elaeagnus/ and "sultan iğde" refers to the specific trees with good fruit.

No mention of Trebizond or date. They look a bit like dates though.

Turkish wikipedia has quite a list of /Elaeagnus/, but it does not include /E. orientalis/ (which western botany seems to have lumped into /L. angustifolia/ without even a varietal separation).

I don't read Turkish, but the wikitranslation does suggest that grafting may be necessary for the best fruit.
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=tr&u=https://tr.wikipedia.org/wiki/%25C4%25B0%25C4%259Fde&prev=search

--Henry

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On Sun, 9/11/16, PATTY <jrplelie@centurylink.net> wrote:

Subject: Re: [nafex] trezibond date
To: "mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Date: Sunday, September 11, 2016, 9:18 PM

Jerry, Here's what a
bag of E. orientalis looks like.  Oh, I missed another
synonym, Lotus tree fruit.  It is definitely not a
Diospyros.  Traversing so many Middle Eastern cultures
hasn't helped the list of names. 

http://persianbasket.com/sadaf-senjed

Jim Elie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Lehman" <jwlehmantree@gmail.com>
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2016 8:47:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nafex] trezibond date

On 9/11/2016 8:29 PM, Lee
Reich wrote:
>   (This
red-fruited form has sometimes been referred to erroneously
as the Trebizond date, which is in fact the date plum,
Diospyros lotus, another small, dark, sweet, dried fruit
eaten in that part of the world.)
It sure
looks to me like there is a lot of confusion on names.
Nothing
new here. The 1st message on the
subject refers to cleaning the seed
with
his teeth. If the Trebizond Date where D. lotus it could
have up to
8 seeds. Jerry Lehman
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