Re: [nafex] Pomona time!

Dear Jacqueline,


Year of Decision


Time will tell if my perception is correct, but that is how it has seemed in reviewing 2016.


Two of three British apples were again found wanting: one cannot hold its fruit in a low humidity heat wave and the other needs far better soil than I can afford to provide anytime soon. So I cut extra scions of D'Arcy Spice and Sturmer Pippin and included them in the packages sent to those who swapped with me this past winter. They will be top-worked to American apples this spring: Harrison and Keepsake.


I had sent too many scions of the third British apple, Bardsey, in winter '15-'16, so got only a single, huge apple from this young tree. Although spring came 2-3 weeks earlier than usual, the fruit still didn't come loose for picking until the end of September, just as previously. Bardsey is a light fruit: light lemon scent, light acid (in this environment) and light weight. Although over 3 inches high and wide it weighed just over 9 ounces, despite its juiciness. I cut only two scions this time around and hope for more fruit this year.


Winekist surprised me by blooming in its third leaf, about mid-late bloom, too. Since the bloom was far later than expected, I left two fruits on it to clinch ID. Sure enough, it's Winekist. Two inch by two, red like a beet inside, 12 Brix. Both it and Redfield look as though they will have drooping habit as trees, and the places I had hoped to put them will cause problems. Two neighbors have agreed to allow me to plant and prune for them, and they get each a lovely apple tree without wormy fruit!


Neil Crowley told me he has good crops from Claygate Pearmain, something he had sent me previously. The graft I had intended to use failed, but two back up grafts onto larger stock, Bud118, both callused. With his encouragement I now plan to plant both whips of Claygate where once the red fleshed apples were intended to go. Claygate, I understand, has an upright habit, which will be handy in the narrow area I want to fill.


The two top-working projects were the only grafts I expected to make for this yard, until the host of scions came by way of people asking for D'Arcy Spice (try it!) and other apples I have started. It appears this may be the year when the yard finally takes shape, with a majority of American apples. I will (God willing) graft every spare root stock left over from previous attempts. Next fall might reveal a very different fruit profile than what was imagined before this year.


Ben Sarek black currant again had tremendous aphid damage, reducing its crop to a third of any others (Ben More, Westwick, Orphan - no name or parentage.) I tore it out and asked for some in swapping scions. Black September came (thank you Kirk) and two hard wood cuttings are in the ground, rooting at this writing.

I learned something about using black currants: In making jam I did not remove all the woody calyxes, which can take hours. (Someone said it was possible to roll them between palms to remove them. Not in this climate, apparently.) I put currants in the blender with nearly a half cup of water and blended them. Then proceeded to cook jam. It worked well!


North Star cherry yielded its first crop, about 2 cups pitted. We made a pie with those and an equal amount of Montmorency, picked elsewhere. Wow, bright color and flavor: the Morello parent shines in North Star for color and taste, but the other parent shifted its harvest earlier by about 3 weeks. Only two maggots inside of two cups pitted. Win, win, win.


Dave Liezen


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From: nafex <nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org> on behalf of Jacquelyn Kuehn <jakuehn@verizon.net>
Sent: Monday, March 20, 2017 1:23 PM
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Subject: [nafex] Pomona time!

I'm in need of your help to put together the next Pomona. Questions, with or without answers, discussions you've had here or in person; your experiences; please write them up--copy and paste works; I can smooth them into an article--and email them to me. Thanks.

Jacquelyn Kuehn

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> Jim, I'll see whether I can find the correspondence with the fellow NAFEX member who sent me some seeds. I gave them to a nephew in Kansas but I do not think he had any luck getting any trees started. -- Sam
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> Who sells Siberian C root stock, please
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> Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
> have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
> white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
> planting.
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> On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
>> I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept
>> producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
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>>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
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>>> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5,
>>> though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another
>>> seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I
>>> was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with
>>> runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed
>>> peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve
>>> with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! -- Sam
>>> Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
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>>> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
>>> could handle zone 4.
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