Re: [nafex] Pawpaw question and jujube observation

I have yet to have a grafted pawpaw, event ones that were 2-3 years
old in containers, make it thru a winter here in Wisconsin. I do not
have that issue with seedlings. My whole pawpaw planting are from
several rounds of seeds from John Gordon. I sure wish I would have
collected more of his offerings 10-15 years ago.

~miEKAL


On Wed, Aug 19, 2015 at 6:39 AM, Louis Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu> wrote:
> The late John Gordon once opined that if he were 30 years younger, he'd
> have just planted seed of select pawpaw varieties, selected those seedlings
> with the largest leaves, and possibly not have bothered with grafted
> selections.
>
> In my limited experience, most, if not all of the container-grown grafted(I
> grafted them) pawpaws that I transplanted to permanent locations exhibited
> decline of the scion variety over 2-3 years, reverting back to just the
> seedling understock. Perhaps that was due to my lack of attention - I know
> if I left a grafted persimmon alone for the first year or two, it wouldn't
> be there.
> But... I've got several multi-variety pawpaws that were grafted onto after
> they were well-established, and have not experienced cultivar decline or
> overpowering by the (named-parentage) seedling understock.
>
> Lucky
>
> On Tue, Aug 18, 2015 at 10:46 PM, Jerry Lehman <jwlehmantree@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> On 8/18/2015 10:06 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:
>>
>>> I am seeing conflicting information on fruit sites, so I wanted to poll
>>> the community: has anyone observed - do pawpaws grown from seed come fairly
>>> true to parent's characteristics?
>>>
>> Hello Betsy,
>>
>> The genetic variations in pawpaw isn't nearly as broad as it is for
>> example with Malus. Based on my experience of breeding pawpaw I believe you
>> would be very happy with seedlings from selected second-generation pawpaws,
>> as long as both the seed and pollen parent are select second-generation.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
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