Saturday, November 21, 2020

Re: [nafex] Sweet Sixteen

We had a bad drought a couple of years ago and I lost two mature oak trees and some rhododendrons. I lost 90% of a rhododendron that was 50 years old.

Even trees with extensive root systems can be killed by drought. (Although of course a limited root system doesn't help.)

This last summer I watered. Not often. But each valuable tree got at least one deep watering in the worst of it.
--
Ginda
typed with Swype, who knows what I intended.


On November 21, 2020 9:10:08 AM EST, Chris Garriss <cgarriss@garriss.net> wrote:
>I think that is one possibility. I had a similar circumstance a number
>if
>years ago. In doing a "necropsy" i found that when planted the soil
>had
>not been loosened enough, the roots were essentially root bound, not
>growing out into the soil around the planting hole. The adage of "Dig
>a
>$100 hole for a $10 tree" definitely applies.
>
>Other things could factor in but I would not discount lack of an
>extensive
>root system. I have also seen over watering keeping the development of
>a
>robust root system from occurring.
>
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>On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 08:44 Jacquelyn Kuehn via nafex <
>nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
>> So I'll start with a sad story. My Sweet Sixteen apple, about 10
>years
>> old, was just starting to give wonderful crops of amazing apples.
>This
>> spring, as it was laden with blossoms, we had a heavy frost. Some of
>the
>> fruits developed anyway.
>>
>> Then the season became quite dry. By August, the tree shriveled up
>and
>> died. Completely dead.
>>
>> After so long to have established its root system, is it possible the
>> drought really was what killed it?
>>
>> Jacquelyn Kuehn
>>
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>> >> On Sat, Nov 21, 2020, 00:40 Lawrence London
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