Re: [nafex] Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett

On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 9:31 AM Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett <
bluestem_farm@juno.com> wrote:

> It's true that Stayman and winesap are different. Lawrence had asked
> about Stayman, so I answered. I also have a Starks 'Winesap' from circa
> 1990; it isn't nearly as good. I remember hearing or reading an apple
> specialist saying that Winesap, like Red Delicious, has been selected
> progressively for more commercial characterists, and has lost flavor as a
> consequence. He then went on to say that no Winesap after 1950 was worth
> growing;

That is what I suspected. Ones I bought from grocers were nothing like the
ones I ate from the tree in Alamance County, which were like the
description you gave of yours. I will be very interested in buying one or
two from you next year. At least they will be growing in yet another known
location and I will learn how to propagate it myself.

LL


> my reaction was relief that my older variety had just slipped under the
> wire. It has been highly disease resistant so far. It generates big
> beautiful fruit with no spraying. Small scabs, no CAR that I remember(some
> wild trees turn orange with it, so it is around), so far not much fire
> blight. Good, not high, flavor.
> Muffy Barrett
> ---------- Original Message ----------
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 13, 2020 at 7:46 AM Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Stayman and Winesap are different cultivars. Stayman isn't as dense, is
> > larger and sweeter. We should discard the name Stayman Winesap, it is
> > misleading and too long.
> >
>
> Thanks for the update. I will pursue the Stayman. Stark sells their grafted
> Stayman Starkspur Winesap,
> which is not cedar apple rust resistant. They may have discontinued it by
> now. I will check their catalog.
> Is Stayman CAR resistant? I have a real problem with it on my property.
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