Wednesday, June 3, 2015

Re: [nafex] Dwarf Geraldi Mulberry

Geraldi is not as hardy as Illinois everbearer. I tried planting it 3
different times in zone 5b SE Michigan and though it bore wonderful fruit,
it never made it through more than a few winters. I wish it had...

Mike Levine
Ann Arbor, MI

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:

> Geraldi Dwarf came through this past winter that was consistently cold and
> hit minus 20° F. It's now loaded with fruit which I tasted last year and
> was very delicious.
>
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> > On Jun 3, 2015, at 9:22 AM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > any thoughts on the hardiness of Geraldi? is it as hardy as Illinois
> > Everbearing?
> >
> > ~mIEKAL
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net>
> wrote:
> >> Geraldi mulberry stays dwarf when grafted on other rootstock. Mine is
> not over 7 feet tall and diameter about the same and is over 15 years. It
> is dwarfed because of the short distance
> >> between the nodes. Since the nodes are so close and the fruit normal
> size it appears more heavy loaded than any other mulberry. I have taken
> softwood cuttings this spring and trying
> >> to root, have had no success with cuttings taken winter pruning.
> >>
> >> Lester H. Davis
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >>
> >> From: "Steven Covacci" <filtertitle@gmail.com>
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> Experimenters" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Sent: Monday, June 1, 2015 10:33:59 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry
> >>
> >> Does Morus alba cv. 'Geraldi Dwarf' stay dwarfed when grafted unto a
> >> typical M. alba rootstock.. a few feet above ground? I like to bury the
> >> graft union when dealing with dwarfs to maintain this characteristic;
> just
> >> buried the union on my M. latifolia 'Kokuso-20' and in the past had
> done so
> >> with me M. nigra 'Black Beauty' (doing well so far; NJ Zone 6b/7a.. a
> few
> >> years and just a few fruit this year; not vigorous.. buried the union.)
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:54 PM, Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I live 100miles southwest of Atlanta. Winter of 2014 low temp was 12
> >>> degrees for a short while and then not over 32 all day. Winter of
> 2015 had
> >>> low of 11 degrees for a short while and not over
> >>> 32 all that day. No die back at all, none, then the Pakistan began to
> >>> leaf out in late Feb during a warm-up. Then we had a few more frosts
> and
> >>> most all leaves fell. It did put out new growth and
> >>> there were a few fruit this year. I would say this happens 3 out 4
> >>> years, but when it does come to a full fruiting year it is loaded.
> The
> >>> tree is 15 years old and over 30 feet tall and still growing,
> >>> wish I had kept it pruned. I have a 'Geraldi' dwarf mulberry, same
> age,
> >>> heavy producer over a long period of time. A black fruit with good
> taste,
> >>> for a small yard it is an ideal.
> >>>
> >>> Lester H. Davis
> >>> Columbus, GA
> >>>
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>>
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> >>> Cc: "Devin Smith" <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> >>> Sent: Sunday, May 31, 2015 9:08:45 PM
> >>> Subject: [nafex] Pakistan mulberry
> >>>
> >>> I have been thinking about trialing Pakistan mulberry here in Vermont.
> I
> >>> understand that it is a real long shot, but given the fact that much
> of the
> >>> limitation seems to revolve around 'low chill' requirment, it might
> just
> >>> work. Hardiness-wise, I understand Atlanta area saw sub-zero temps.
> for a
> >>> couple of nights this past winter. Did those of you in the south who
> are
> >>> growing Pakistan experience severe dieback this winter? I'm thinking
> that
> >>> our winter weather is consistent enough that the trees would stay
> dormant,
> >>> and then I could 1. grow them on the own roots so they can resprout if
> need
> >>> be and 2. plant in a protected spot with some extra protection as
> people do
> >>> with figs. They sure are delicious, so I think its worth a shot.
> >>>
> >>> I also noticed perusing the GRIN database that several other similar
> >>> selections are available, listed as Morus macroura or 'himalayan
> mulberry.'
> >>> One in particular DMOR 9 looks similar to 'pakistan', though a bit
> >>> scrawnier, and the description seems to suggest zone 5 hardiness,
> though on
> >>> second look I noticed this is merely a snippet from a seed savers
> exchange
> >>> write-up about the species. Anyone know anything about hardy
> higher-chill
> >>> macroura selections that might be a good stand in for
> >>> 'pakistan'?
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