Re: [nafex] деревянные черенки просил

Holy shit Batman! 98 different varieties of various species,
unbelievable. Are they establishing a fruiting botanical repository?
They have ordered before so apparently they have the ability to pay.

I'm quite certain MB 3 is not a hybrid, rather an open pollinated
seedling of Morris Burton that John Gordon selected from seeds he
planted. I have it here and I'm not impressed because it is very late.
Some of the fruit is still on the ground and I don't see much deer
activity around it, nothing like deer Candy although location could have
a bearing. The fruit is large and colorful flavor good but I do not
believe it's a hybrid. In fact I'm planning on cutting my tree down to
make space for pawpaws.

I really question many persimmon that are being called hybrids. For
example I've seen it claimed that Keener is a hybrid, and I don't see
it. Anyway!

Below is the list of material he has requested that I can help you with
if you don't have it. 275-69 and 275-70 is in very short supply as they
are located next to the driveway going straight back to the orchard and
in shade part of the day. I plan on grafting it here this spring which
will require my holding at least one stick of wood for myself of each. I
wonder if 250-48 is a mistake, someone getting the numbers mixed up. I
do have such a tree but I don't recall calling attention to it. Just
checked my field notes, generally it is average to large but none of the
notes say exceptional taste. I hate to start distributing average
material if the buyer believes it is superior. If he is just looking for
genetic diversity then that would be okay. It is a Davis X SN-15 cross.

Jerry

On 1/27/2017 12:20 AM, England's Orchard and NUrseryEngland's Orchard
and NUrsery wrote:
>
> PAWPAWS:
>
> 1. 250-39;
>
> 2. 250-48;
>
> 3. 275-48;
>
> .4. 250-30;
>
> 5. 275-17;
>
> 28. 275-56;
>
> 42. 275-69;
>
> 43. 275-70;
>
> PERSIMMONS – Virginiana (V):
>
> 44. H-120 (V);
>
> 45. Lena / Mitchellena (V);
>
> 46. Mohler (V);
>
> 47. 100-47 (V);
>
> 48. NC-10 (V);
>
> 49. U20A Celebrity (V);
>
> 50. Wonderful (V);
>
> PERSIMMONS - Hybrids Virginiana X Kaki (V x K):
>
> 50. Morris Burton # 3 (V x K);
>
>

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Re: [nafex] Jesuit Pear

Looks very much like a seckle.



> On Jan 26, 2017, at 4:46 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The pear repository has a number of cultivars listed called Mission
> pears which is listed as a synonym in the article you posted. They
> look to have a different shape than the photo of the fruit in the
> article but who knows.
>
> https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/accessiondetail.aspx?accid=%20PI+617580
>
> ~mIEKAL
>
> On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Mike Levine <mlevine@umich.edu> wrote:
>> Has anyone heard of the Jesuit Pears that grow in Detroit, MI and Windsor
>> Ontario or similar places? Does anyone have any information about the
>> location of these trees, grafting them, flavor and uses, or any other
>> useful information? Slow Food is considering adding them to the Ark of
>> Taste.
>>
>> https://www.slowfoodusa.org/ark-item/jesuit-pear
>>
>> And that page links to this and some of the other pages out there:
>> http://www.ameriquefrancaise.org/en/article-317/Jesuit_Pear_Trees.html
>>
>>
>> thanks,
>> Mike Levine
>> Ann Arbor, MI
>> www.natureandnurtureseeds.com
>> Heirloom and open pollinated seeds for the Great Lakes and beyond
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Re: [nafex] Jesuit Pear

The pear repository has a number of cultivars listed called Mission
pears which is listed as a synonym in the article you posted. They
look to have a different shape than the photo of the fruit in the
article but who knows.

https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/accessiondetail.aspx?accid=%20PI+617580

~mIEKAL

On Thu, Jan 26, 2017 at 1:18 PM, Mike Levine <mlevine@umich.edu> wrote:
> Has anyone heard of the Jesuit Pears that grow in Detroit, MI and Windsor
> Ontario or similar places? Does anyone have any information about the
> location of these trees, grafting them, flavor and uses, or any other
> useful information? Slow Food is considering adding them to the Ark of
> Taste.
>
> https://www.slowfoodusa.org/ark-item/jesuit-pear
>
> And that page links to this and some of the other pages out there:
> http://www.ameriquefrancaise.org/en/article-317/Jesuit_Pear_Trees.html
>
>
> thanks,
> Mike Levine
> Ann Arbor, MI
> www.natureandnurtureseeds.com
> Heirloom and open pollinated seeds for the Great Lakes and beyond
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[nafex] NAFEX/NNGA annual meeting 2017

We have space available for 40 additional speakers. Mark your calendars
now and plan to attend.
*2017 ANNUAL CONFERENCE ANNOUNCEMENT AND CALL FOR PAPERS *
The North American Fruit Explorers and the Northern Nut Growers
Association announce their joint conference (annual meeting) which will
be held at the University of Georgia, Tifton Conference Center, from
Sunday, August 13 through Wednesday, August 16, 2017. Participants will
be able to attend both nut and fruit sessions for the registration fee.
Members receive a discount, while the registration fee will entitle
non-members to one year's free on-line membership in either the NNGA or
NAFEX. A listing of the presenters, registration information,
discounted hotel accommodations, and travel information will be posted
on our web sites, www.nafex.org and www.nutgrowing.org by mid-February.
Here is the proposed agenda:
Board meetings will be held on Sunday morning. Registration will take
place on Sunday afternoon, followed by a Welcome Buffet Dinner. At 7:00
PM we will have a Show and Tell Session, where members can talk about
their nut and fruit growing experiences.
Monday and Tuesday are devoted to scientific and technical presentations
on growing nuts and fruits. There will be presentations on other
agricultural crops and on marketing strategies. A wide variety of
speakers will be invited including researchers, commercial growers, and
backyard enthusiasts. There will be concurrent presentations, along
with Open Space and breakout sessions. You may attend sessions on the
subjects of your choice.
Monday evening will feature our annual auction. This is a great way to
have fun while raising money for the research efforts of both
organizations. It is also an opportunity to advertise your product to a
captive audience. Hand made donations, seedlings, nuts and fruits,
baked goods, and unique products for this event are needed.
Tuesday evening's theme is "Georgia on My Mind", with traditional
Southern food and entertainment. We will conclude the business meeting,
which opened on Monday morning, select the "Big Nut" for the year, and
enjoy an evening of socialization.
Wednesday will be devoted to a tour of the University of Georgia's
experimental plantings; the Future Farmstead, which is an energy
independent experimental farm and farmstead; the USDA station in Byron
Georgia; and the Fort Valley Agricultural College. At the end of the
tour, we will have dinner at the scenic Horse Creek Winery in Sparks,
Georgia.
Separate activities are planned for CAP (Companions Alternate Program)
for the spouses and those accompanying members. Among these is the trip
to the Georgia Museum of Agriculture in Tifton. The goal is to have
something for everyone.
CALL FOR PAPERS We have 30 to 40 minute time slots for the formal
presentations on Monday and Tuesday. Show and Tell talks can be
anywhere from 5 to 15 minutes. We welcome your contribution as a
speaker. PowerPoint (AV) projectors will be available. If you would
like to offer a presentation or a less formal talk, please contact our
Conference Program Director, Prof. Michele Warmund at
warmundm@missouri.edu. For other questions or information, contact Jerry
Henkin, Chair of the 2017 NAFEX/NNGA Conference, at sproutnut@aol.com,
(914) 282 – 1371.
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[nafex] Jesuit Pear

Has anyone heard of the Jesuit Pears that grow in Detroit, MI and Windsor
Ontario or similar places? Does anyone have any information about the
location of these trees, grafting them, flavor and uses, or any other
useful information? Slow Food is considering adding them to the Ark of
Taste.

https://www.slowfoodusa.org/ark-item/jesuit-pear

And that page links to this and some of the other pages out there:
http://www.ameriquefrancaise.org/en/article-317/Jesuit_Pear_Trees.html


thanks,
Mike Levine
Ann Arbor, MI
www.natureandnurtureseeds.com
Heirloom and open pollinated seeds for the Great Lakes and beyond
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[nafex] Sib C peach seed

Does anyone need some? They are available in Hong Kong.
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[nafex] Quince fruiting

I have lost track of how this works, so forgive me if things go astray. I know nothing about
the biology of quince trees. But I planted a 2 year-old Quince of Portugal in my orchard in
Nova Scotia, (zone 5b), 6 years ago. It grew a good 3 ft. that first year, No fruit in year 2,
(3'rd leaf). Next year, (4'th leaf) produced 12 one pound fruits. Following year 24 lb. of fruit,
next year 36 lb, and this past year 42 lb.. No diseases of any sort, no insect attack of any
sort. Just grows and fruits in abundance.

An interesting sidelight on this is that it was apparently usual for farmsteads (at least locally)
to have one or two quince trees planted near the house, to supply the pectin for fall canning
activities. I am aware of a couple of old farms locally where the old quince trees, (no longer
named) continue to grow adjacent to the 100 year-old farmhouse, so it is obviously not
unusual. I do not believe we have CAR in this area. (We do have heavy scab pressure,
being right on the water. But the quince seems completely immune to apple scab.)

Now, to the question of what flower buds look like. I have no "book knowledge", but have
gone out to look at my tree. It is very apparent that there are no clear flower buds, in the
manner of apples. (On an apple tree, it is obvious what is a vergatative bud, and what will be
a flower this spring). I do not know whether there is some means of including pictures in this
listserv, but if it is felt to be useful, if somebody wants to give me guidance, I can post a
picture. But, basically, my interpretation, (and again, I emphasize that I know nothing, and
can only go on my own observations and interpretation), is that the Google entry is actually
pretty accurate. I have looked at a spur where a fruit developed last year - a short (2") stub,
with the scar where the fruit dehisced, at the end. This stub has a dormant bud towards the
base,, followed by 3 short "sprouts" towards the distal end, each with 3 or 4 buds, with 2 of
these buds being closely grouped at the tips. There is nothing which looks clearly like a
flower vs, fruit bud - all the buds are small and fairly tightly applied to the stem. But I am
reasonable sure that what happens in the spring is that one of the two buds at the terninal
end of each of these twigs grows for a couple of inches, then produces a flower bud, which
then blooms, terminating the growth on that particular twig. The other adjacent bud may or
may not also grow out, and if it does do so, it does not terminate in a blossom, but makes a
new branch. So, my observation would suggest that there really are no flower buds visible on
the the previous year's growth, and that the flowers are produced in the spring from new
wood which has grown in the very early part of the seqason, (ie. on the current year's
growth).
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