Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid

Hi Keith,

Can you supply pictures?

Jerry


In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:

Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I was a
veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
of the miners were Italian immigrants.
One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut in
her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts with
me. When they germinated
they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I planted.
I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years later
that produces a pear shape
husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the mill.Not
dry enough to evaluate.
I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was terminated
due to lack of success.
Keith
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Re: [nafex] Preparing clay soil for raspberries

Thanks, folks, for the info on amending soil for raspberries. One
concern is that Pete mentioned that they don't like wet feet. Around
here, we have to have everything on irrigation or plants can dry up and
die quickly. As a result, there is a tendency for plants to get
overwatered, because underwatering can be fatal.

So I'm worried that even with all the organic matter mixed in, the soil
will stay too wet. Maybe vermiculite would be a good option. Guess I can
try to keep an eye on the amount of irrigation to keep it safe but at a
minimum.

Ideas?

Regards,

Jay

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On 10/14/2014 5:59 PM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote:
> Jay--
>
> the gravel/sand idea sounds like an engineering paradigm applied to what is properly the domain of biology. I don't have experience with true clay soil as such, but the silt loam on my site is quite heavy and easily compacted. I'd concur on organic matter, though I'd tend to apply much of it to the surface rather than till it in. If you are going to till, possible supplements you might consider include porous aggregate (vermiculite is good), charcoal, and gypsum (you didn't mention your pH) as it aggregates clay particles creating good tilth. No matter what, I would top it off with a nice heavy mulch of whatever is available. I'm fond of a layer of leaves and grass clippings covered with 4" or o of wood chips. Get the biology going and let it do the heavy lifting. I have several rows of raspberries growing in 4-6" of soil over ledge and they produce well after being mulched heavily.
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Re: [nafex] Preparing clay soil for raspberries

Jay--

the gravel/sand idea sounds like an engineering paradigm applied to what is properly the domain of biology. I don't have experience with true clay soil as such, but the silt loam on my site is quite heavy and easily compacted. I'd concur on organic matter, though I'd tend to apply much of it to the surface rather than till it in. If you are going to till, possible supplements you might consider include porous aggregate (vermiculite is good), charcoal, and gypsum (you didn't mention your pH) as it aggregates clay particles creating good tilth. No matter what, I would top it off with a nice heavy mulch of whatever is available. I'm fond of a layer of leaves and grass clippings covered with 4" or o of wood chips. Get the biology going and let it do the heavy lifting. I have several rows of raspberries growing in 4-6" of soil over ledge and they produce well after being mulched heavily.
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[nafex] walnut hybrid

Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I was a veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion of the miners were Italian immigrants.
One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut in her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts with me. When they germinated
they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I planted. I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years later that produces a pear shape
husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the mill.Not dry enough to evaluate.
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Keith
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Re: [nafex] Preparing clay soil for raspberries

Thanks, Pete.

How far down would you say raspberry roots go?

Regards,

Jay

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On 10/14/2014 9:38 AM, Pete Tallman wrote:
> Responding to the note from Jay Cutts about raspberries in heavy clay soil: I was told a long time ago that adding sand to the clay soil was akin to making concrete or bricks, probably not the way to go. I will go through my process for creating soil in my area of Colorado, which might give you some ideas. Soil was pretty heavy clay. What I needed is lots of organic matter. I rototilled the row to be planted, in my case about 3 ft by 30 ft, planning for two rows of plants. Once that rototilling was done, dug out the loose tilled stuff and set it to the side of the row. Then I rototilled the bottom of the trench. To this, I added lots of peat moss (maybe 4 to 8 cu ft for the row), 1/2 yard or more of prepared compost mix, and some soil sulfur and triple superphosphate according to package directions. Rototilled all of that to mix in at the bottom of the trench. Restored the earlier loose stuff back to the row and rototilled again to mix the top layer into the prepared layer.
I think of it as planting in a 3 ft by 30 ft clay flower pot.
>
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[nafex] Preparing clay soil for raspberries

Responding to the note from Jay Cutts about raspberries in heavy clay soil: I was told a long time ago that adding sand to the clay soil was akin to making concrete or bricks, probably not the way to go. I will go through my process for creating soil in my area of Colorado, which might give you some ideas. Soil was pretty heavy clay. What I needed is lots of organic matter. I rototilled the row to be planted, in my case about 3 ft by 30 ft, planning for two rows of plants. Once that rototilling was done, dug out the loose tilled stuff and set it to the side of the row. Then I rototilled the bottom of the trench. To this, I added lots of peat moss (maybe 4 to 8 cu ft for the row), 1/2 yard or more of prepared compost mix, and some soil sulfur and triple superphosphate according to package directions. Rototilled all of that to mix in at the bottom of the trench. Restored the earlier loose stuff back to the row and rototilled again to mix the top layer into the prepared layer. I think of it as planting in a 3 ft by 30 ft clay flower pot.  

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Longmont, CO  zone 5 or so
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Re: [nafex] Niwot primocane-fruiting black raspberry available

Pete, thanks for your recent response to my inquiry about why my
raspberries tend to die out after several years at 7000 feet in NM.

You mentioned that they don't like wet feet. My soil is pretty heavy
clay without a lot of organic matter. I'm thinking of adding lots of
compost etc but also wondering if it would help to work in some sand for
drainage and aeration.

What do you think? And how deep should I amend the soil for raspberry roots?

Would it help to put a 3 or 4 inch layer of gravel UNDER the root zone
and then put the soil mix (with sand) above the gravel?

Thanks.

Regards,

Jay

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On 10/9/2014 11:20 AM, Pete Tallman wrote:
> Pleased to announce that my Niwot primocane-fruiting black raspberry is now available for ordering from Nourse Farms online catalog for spring 2015 planting. See http://noursefarms.com/raspberry-plants/niwot/
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