Re: [nafex] strawberry info

Bob,

Thanks. This confirms they are worth trying in Minnesota!

We will be selling 6 seedlings in a pack, so that should cover the gender issue.

Now the difficult task of estimating how many people will want!

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com

On Friday, August 5, 2022, 11:16:31 AM CDT, Bors, Bob <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:

Hi Henry,

The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not  F. Mochata. It did fine.

Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
Berries can be as big as an inch.
It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago.  I don't have them anymore.

Cheers,

Bob Bors, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Head of the Fruit Program
Dept. of Plant Sciences
51 Campus Drive
Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
www.fruit.usask.ca

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I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.

A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.

Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.

--Henry Fieldseth
Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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Re: [nafex] strawberry info

Lee,

Thanks for the info.

I posted this question on the nafex facebook group as well as to this listserve. The replies via this system answered my question.

The 2 replies from facebook provided fine information, but did not answer my question at all.

While facebook might have more "action." I am glad this list is still here!

--Henry

On Friday, August 5, 2022, 01:56:25 PM CDT, Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Henry,

I first learned about musk strawberries decades ago and then, while working at the Fruit Lab of the USDA, wanted to try them. They were unavailable in this country then, but I was able to import them and waited for their 2 year quarantine. I know that other people have gotten fruit from them but I never got more than very few, very small fruits. The variety I had (and still have a few of, from years of runnering, which it does prolifically) is Profumata di Tortona, which was was grown commercially in Italy. I did have a male pollinator also, called Capron.

I consider this strawberry to be one of the best tasting, sort of like strawberry and raspberry. But I don't know why it's yield and size were so poor.

By the way, I devoted a chapter to musk and alpine strawberries (the latter of which I do grow, the white variety, which is delectable) in my now out of print book Uncommon Fruit for Every Garden.  It will be updated and back in print in a few years.

Both alpine and musk strawberries survive my Zone 5 winters.

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog <http://www.leereich.com/blog>
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
•A Northeast Gardener's Year
•The Pruning Book
•Weedless Gardening
•Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
•Landscaping with Fruit
•Grow Fruit Naturally
°New!! Growing Figs in Cold Climates

> On Aug 5, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Bors, Bob <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Henry,
>
> The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
> In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
> Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
> This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not  F. Mochata. It did fine.
>
> Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
> Berries can be as big as an inch.
> It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
> Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
> I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
> I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago.  I don't have them anymore.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Bob Bors, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Head of the Fruit Program
> Dept. of Plant Sciences
> 51 Campus Drive
> Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
> www.fruit.usask.ca
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [nafex] strawberry info
>
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>
>
> I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
>
> Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.
>
> A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.
>
> Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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Re: [nafex] strawberry info

Hi Henry,

I first learned about musk strawberries decades ago and then, while working at the Fruit Lab of the USDA, wanted to try them. They were unavailable in this country then, but I was able to import them and waited for their 2 year quarantine. I know that other people have gotten fruit from them but I never got more than very few, very small fruits. The variety I had (and still have a few of, from years of runnering, which it does prolifically) is Profumata di Tortona, which was was grown commercially in Italy. I did have a male pollinator also, called Capron.

I consider this strawberry to be one of the best tasting, sort of like strawberry and raspberry. But I don't know why it's yield and size were so poor.

By the way, I devoted a chapter to musk and alpine strawberries (the latter of which I do grow, the white variety, which is delectable) in my now out of print book Uncommon Fruit for Every Garden. It will be updated and back in print in a few years.

Both alpine and musk strawberries survive my Zone 5 winters.

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog <http://www.leereich.com/blog>
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
•A Northeast Gardener's Year
•The Pruning Book
•Weedless Gardening
•Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
•Landscaping with Fruit
•Grow Fruit Naturally
°New!! Growing Figs in Cold Climates

> On Aug 5, 2022, at 12:16 PM, Bors, Bob <bob.bors@usask.ca> wrote:
>
> Hi Henry,
>
> The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
> In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
> Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
> This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not F. Mochata. It did fine.
>
> Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
> Berries can be as big as an inch.
> It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
> Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
> I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
> I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago. I don't have them anymore.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> Bob Bors, Ph.D.
> Assistant Professor
> Head of the Fruit Program
> Dept. of Plant Sciences
> 51 Campus Drive
> Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
> www.fruit.usask.ca
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+bob.bors=usask.ca@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf Of Henry via nafex
> Sent: Thursday, August 4, 2022 9:33 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Cc: Henry <treehugger53ah@yahoo.com>
> Subject: [nafex] strawberry info
>
> CAUTION: External to USask. Verify sender and use caution with links and attachments. Forward suspicious emails to phishing@usask.ca
>
>
> I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
>
> Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.
>
> A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.
>
> Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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Re: [nafex] strawberry info

Hi Henry,

The musk strawberry Fragaria moschata is super cold hardy.
In my grad school days in Ontario, I recall we had a freak early winter rainfall that fell on frozen ground.
Plants stayed imbedded in ice most of the winter.
This killed off a huge % strawberries, but not F. Mochata. It did fine.

Its musky flavor is somewhat like concord grapes.
Berries can be as big as an inch.
It has 6 chromosomes while regular strawberries have 8.
Although an accession or two have complete flowers, mostly they have male and female plants. So that would be problematic to sell both types.
I'm not sure where to get them commercially.
I got some from the genebank in Corvallis years ago. I don't have them anymore.

Cheers,


Bob Bors, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
Head of the Fruit Program
Dept. of Plant Sciences
51 Campus Drive
Saskatoon, SK S7N 5A8 Canada
www.fruit.usask.ca



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I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.

A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.

Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.

--Henry Fieldseth
Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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Re: [nafex] strawberry info

I have grown it in zone 4b. It is beautiful in bloom but needs a protected location and good mulch in winter. It is. A very pretty plant

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> On Aug 4, 2022, at 10:33 PM, Henry via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
>  I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.
>
> Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.
>
> A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.
>
> Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
> http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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[nafex] strawberry info

I buy plants for the Friends School Plant Sale in Saint Paul, Minnesota.

Strawberries were very popular last year and sold out quickly, so we want to add some new varieties.

A customer requested the European musk strawberry, but none of us know anything about it.

Specifically, we want to know if it would be a good candidate for mid-continental Zone 4.

--Henry Fieldseth
Saint Paul, Minnesota, USA
http://www.FriendsSchoolPlantSale.com
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[nafex] contact info

I have been in contact with Hal Barkdull via the NAFEX facebook group.

Because of their new Facebook Protect, i have been locked out of facebook.

Do any of you have Hal's email address?

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, USA, zone 4, apples blooming now
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