Re: [nafex] severe moth damage

Here's a photo for reference 

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Re: [nafex] Severe moth damage

Thanks Megan,Yes, an important detail I overlooked is my location. I'm indeed in southern VT. SWD arrived here maybe 4-5 yrs ago. I'm thinking this is a new arrival too. I'm fairly certain it is NOT the common fruit piercing moth, which is a tropical species as you note, though that has spread as far as Caledonia, Scotland! Though the general feeding behavior seems quite similar, the size and coloration don't match at all. At about 1" long, this moth is about half the size of the common fruit piercing moth. It is entirely mottled grey, lacking any bright coloration of its inner wings or thorax, whereas the fruit piercing moth has a large patch of orange/red visible during flight. These moths are present here from perhaps mid-June until maybe mid-October. I know nothing of their life cycle and so far have been able to drum of very little info about them. I'm planning to contact the state entomologist and the NRCS extension agent who deals with small fruits. I'd be very surprised if these aren't causing mayhem elsewhere. Between them and the SWD that infests their feeding sites, it looks like a tree ripened peach may be a near impossibility. I guess I might consider netting the trees. -Devin

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On Tuesday, August 31, 2021, 1:34 AM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Devin,
You don't say where you're writing from, but looking at old emails of yours I'm going to assume you're still in Vermont? Given that this is a tropical moth species, I'm actually shocked it could make it through a Vermont winter, even with climate change. Not that iNaturalist is conclusive, but I'm not seeing any logged spottings for Eudocima phalonia. The caterpillars are quite distinctive so that should provide conclusive ID if you see them at that stage.

I found a USDA screening aid on them (they have arrived in TX), but was not able to find IPM information for areas where they've been introduced.https://idtools.org/screeningaids/leps/low/Eudocima_phalonia_LoRes.pdf

There is an Open Access paper on their presence in New Caledonia and it goes into IPM a bit. https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4450/12/2/117/html
Megan LynchDavis, CA

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Re: [nafex] Severe moth damage

Hi Devin,

You don't say where you're writing from, but looking at old emails of yours
I'm going to assume you're still in Vermont? Given that this is a tropical
moth species, I'm actually shocked it could make it through a Vermont
winter, even with climate change. Not that iNaturalist is conclusive, but
I'm not seeing any logged spottings for Eudocima phalonia. The caterpillars
are quite distinctive so that should provide conclusive ID if you see them
at that stage.


I found a USDA screening aid on them (they have arrived in TX), but was not
able to find IPM information for areas where they've been introduced.
https://idtools.org/screeningaids/leps/low/Eudocima_phalonia_LoRes.pdf

There is an Open Access paper on their presence in New Caledonia and it
goes into IPM a bit. https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4450/12/2/117/html

Megan Lynch
Davis, CA
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[nafex] Severe moth damage

Hi all-As of last year, I have an infestation of moths that are causing severe damage to all soft fruits. They are sort of the avant-garde leading to charge to poke holes in the fruit, at which point spotted wing drosophila gets in there in a big way and the fruit is summarily ruined in literally a single evening. I've suffered around 80% loss of my otherwise excellent peach crop. They ruined the majority of my American persimmon crop last fall. 
The description of their behavior and feeding is suggestive of the common fruit-piercing moth, Eudocina fullonia, although this is a much smaller moth and looks very different. To me, it resembles the codling moth, but it's a little over twice the size. It's very non-descript, all mottled gray, and has a pointy proboscis which it inserts into fruit repeatedly in a small area. I'm still not sure if it's feeding or ovipositor (maybe both?), nor can I find any info about such a moth. I'm fairly convinced this is a new arrival and I've yet to find anyone who can corroborate my experience or provide me with any info useful or otherwise. Go check your trees at night - mulberries, peaches, persimmons- and see if your having the same thing happen.





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Re: [nafex] Help with plant ID

Yep. Velvetleaf. Aka 'butterprint', as in the past, homemakers used the
seedpods to make impressions in freshly churned & pressed blocks of butter.

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 10:34 PM Henry via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
wrote:

> Velvet leaf.
>
> https://hort.extension.wisc.edu/articles/velvetleaf-abutilon-theophrasti/
>
>
> On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 09:15:16 PM CDT, Jay Cutts <
> orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:
>
> Hi, Folks.
>
> I'm attaching a photo here. If it doesn't show up, please go to
>
> This Link
> <
> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-trio-of-seed-heads-310885339.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=B2ADFEB7-33FA-4C21-87B2-2DC6A4D5F2DF&p=367052&n=212&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3Dbar%26st%3D0%26sortby%3D2%26qt%3Dwildflower%2520seed%2520pods%26qt_raw%3Dwildflower%2520seed%2520pods%26qn%3D%26lic%3D3%26edrf%3D0%26mr%3D0%26pr%3D0%26aoa%3D1%26creative%3D%26videos%3D%26nu%3D%26ccc%3D%26bespoke%3D%26apalib%3D%26ag%3D0%26hc%3D0%26et%3D0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3D0%26loc%3D0%26ot%3D0%26imgt%3D0%26dtfr%3D%26dtto%3D%26size%3D0xFF%26blackwhite%3D%26cutout%3D%26archive%3D1%26name%3D%26groupid%3D%26pseudoid%3D%26userid%3D%26id%3D%26a%3D%26xstx%3D0%26cbstore%3D0%26resultview%3DsortbyPopular%26lightbox%3D%26gname%3D%26gtype%3D%26apalic%3D%26tbar%3D1%26pc%3D%26simid%3D%26cap%3D1%26customgeoip%3D%26vd%3D0%26cid%3D%26pe%3D%26so%3D%26lb%3D%26pl%3D0%26plno%3D%26fi%3D0%26langcode%3Den%26upl%3D0%26cufr%3D%26cuto%3D%26howler%3D%26cvrem%3D0%26cvtype%3D0%26cvloc%3D0%26cl%3D0%26upfr%3D
%
>
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>
> The link is to a stock photo on Alamy and it exactly my plant but does
> not say what it is!
>
> I'm trying to ID this plant. I have it in my front yard in New Mexico at
> about 4700 feet. It may have been something I threw seed out for or it
> may be something native. The plant is about six feet tall with broad
> alternate leaves and looks a little like a sunflower. However, the
> flowers are very small (yellow) and hardly even come out before turning
> into a seed pod.
>
> Seeds are about the size and shape of small pepper seeds, though they
> are dark in color.
>
> That's all I've got. I hope someone can help. Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Cutts
> Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
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Re: [nafex] Help with plant ID

Velvet leaf.

https://hort.extension.wisc.edu/articles/velvetleaf-abutilon-theophrasti/


On Sunday, August 29, 2021, 09:15:16 PM CDT, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:

Hi, Folks.

I'm attaching a photo here. If it doesn't show up, please go to

This Link
<https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-trio-of-seed-heads-310885339.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=B2ADFEB7-33FA-4C21-87B2-2DC6A4D5F2DF&p=367052&n=212&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3Dbar%26st%3D0%26sortby%3D2%26qt%3Dwildflower%2520seed%2520pods%26qt_raw%3Dwildflower%2520seed%2520pods%26qn%3D%26lic%3D3%26edrf%3D0%26mr%3D0%26pr%3D0%26aoa%3D1%26creative%3D%26videos%3D%26nu%3D%26ccc%3D%26bespoke%3D%26apalib%3D%26ag%3D0%26hc%3D0%26et%3D0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3D0%26loc%3D0%26ot%3D0%26imgt%3D0%26dtfr%3D%26dtto%3D%26size%3D0xFF%26blackwhite%3D%26cutout%3D%26archive%3D1%26name%3D%26groupid%3D%26pseudoid%3D%26userid%3D%26id%3D%26a%3D%26xstx%3D0%26cbstore%3D0%26resultview%3DsortbyPopular%26lightbox%3D%26gname%3D%26gtype%3D%26apalic%3D%26tbar%3D1%26pc%3D%26simid%3D%26cap%3D1%26customgeoip%3D%26vd%3D0%26cid%3D%26pe%3D%26so%3D%26lb%3D%26pl%3D0%26plno%3D%26fi%3D0%26langcode%3Den%26upl%3D0%26cufr%3D%26cuto%3D%26howler%3D%26cvrem%3D0%26cvtype%3D0%26cvloc%3D0%26cl%3D0%26upfr%3D%
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The link is to a stock photo on Alamy and it exactly my plant but does
not say what it is!

I'm trying to ID this plant. I have it in my front yard in New Mexico at
about 4700 feet. It may have been something I threw seed out for or it
may be something native. The plant is about six feet tall with broad
alternate leaves and looks a little like a sunflower. However, the
flowers are very small (yellow) and hardly even come out before turning
into a seed pod.

Seeds are about the size and shape of small pepper seeds, though they
are dark in color.

That's all I've got. I hope someone can help. Thanks.

--

Regards,

Jay

Jay Cutts
Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
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Re: [nafex] Help with plant ID

Hard to tell, but this looks a bit like a seed cases of Abutilon
theophrasti, which does have yellow flowers and alternate leaves, though
not sunflower-like flowers.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abutilon_theophrasti

On Sun, Aug 29, 2021 at 7:15 PM Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:

> Hi, Folks.
>
> I'm attaching a photo here. If it doesn't show up, please go to
>
> This Link
> <
> https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-trio-of-seed-heads-310885339.html?pv=1&stamp=2&imageid=B2ADFEB7-33FA-4C21-87B2-2DC6A4D5F2DF&p=367052&n=212&orientation=0&pn=1&searchtype=0&IsFromSearch=1&srch=foo%3Dbar%26st%3D0%26sortby%3D2%26qt%3Dwildflower%2520seed%2520pods%26qt_raw%3Dwildflower%2520seed%2520pods%26qn%3D%26lic%3D3%26edrf%3D0%26mr%3D0%26pr%3D0%26aoa%3D1%26creative%3D%26videos%3D%26nu%3D%26ccc%3D%26bespoke%3D%26apalib%3D%26ag%3D0%26hc%3D0%26et%3D0x000000000000000000000%26vp%3D0%26loc%3D0%26ot%3D0%26imgt%3D0%26dtfr%3D%26dtto%3D%26size%3D0xFF%26blackwhite%3D%26cutout%3D%26archive%3D1%26name%3D%26groupid%3D%26pseudoid%3D%26userid%3D%26id%3D%26a%3D%26xstx%3D0%26cbstore%3D0%26resultview%3DsortbyPopular%26lightbox%3D%26gname%3D%26gtype%3D%26apalic%3D%26tbar%3D1%26pc%3D%26simid%3D%26cap%3D1%26customgeoip%3D%26vd%3D0%26cid%3D%26pe%3D%26so%3D%26lb%3D%26pl%3D0%26plno%3D%26fi%3D0%26langcode%3Den%26upl%3D0%26cufr%3D%26cuto%3D%26howler%3D%26cvrem%3D0%26cvtype%3D0%26cvloc%3D0%26cl%3D0%26upfr%3D
%
>
> 26upto%3D%26primcat%3D%26seccat%3D%26cvcategory%3D*%26restriction%3D%26random%3D%26ispremium%3D1%26flip%3D0%26contributorqt%3D%26plgalleryno%3D%26plpublic%3D0%26viewaspublic%3D0%26isplcurate%3D0%26imageurl%3D%26saveQry%3D%26editorial%3D1%26t%3D0%26filters%3D0>
>
> The link is to a stock photo on Alamy and it exactly my plant but does
> not say what it is!
>
> I'm trying to ID this plant. I have it in my front yard in New Mexico at
> about 4700 feet. It may have been something I threw seed out for or it
> may be something native. The plant is about six feet tall with broad
> alternate leaves and looks a little like a sunflower. However, the
> flowers are very small (yellow) and hardly even come out before turning
> into a seed pod.
>
> Seeds are about the size and shape of small pepper seeds, though they
> are dark in color.
>
> That's all I've got. I hope someone can help. Thanks.
>
> --
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
>
> Jay Cutts
> Director, Cutts Graduate Reviews
> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Prep Book
> Lead Author, Barron's MCAT Flash Cards
> Lead Author, Barron's LSAT Prep Book
> (505) 281-0684 (landline, no texts)
> (505) 717-6394 (cell, text or voicemail)
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