[nafex] Help with plant ID

Hi, Folks.

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The link is to a stock photo on Alamy and it exactly my plant but does
not say what it is!

I'm trying to ID this plant. I have it in my front yard in New Mexico at
about 4700 feet. It may have been something I threw seed out for or it
may be something native. The plant is about six feet tall with broad
alternate leaves and looks a little like a sunflower. However, the
flowers are very small (yellow) and hardly even come out before turning
into a seed pod.

Seeds are about the size and shape of small pepper seeds, though they
are dark in color.

That's all I've got. I hope someone can help. Thanks.

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Re: [nafex] Looking for Anton Callaway

On Wed, Jun 30, 2021 at 4:51 AM Louis Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu>
wrote:

> Hello NAFExers,
> I know the list is all but dead, but thought I'd throw this out.
>

I will see what I can do to revive the list. I have a big backlog of
requests to respond to that I have ignored for some time.
Lists like this that are free, work reliably and have good features are
much better than Reddit or Facebook. Word[ress and Groups.io are also good
but are limited
in ways this list is not.

Lawrence London
owner, nafex list at ibiblio


> If anyone has contact info for Anton Callaway - or if Anton sees this -
> please contact me.
> I have a friend who's contacted me in search of obtaining scions of Koyama
> Asian pear, which Anton had mentioned having in his collection... IIRC,
> bred or selected by the late Lon Rombough.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Lucky Pittman
> (also at Lucky123Pitt(at)gmail(dot)com
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[nafex] Looking for Anton Callaway

Hello NAFExers,
I know the list is all but dead, but thought I'd throw this out.
If anyone has contact info for Anton Callaway - or if Anton sees this -
please contact me.
I have a friend who's contacted me in search of obtaining scions of Koyama
Asian pear, which Anton had mentioned having in his collection... IIRC,
bred or selected by the late Lon Rombough.

Thanks,

Lucky Pittman
(also at Lucky123Pitt(at)gmail(dot)com
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Re: [nafex] Kieffer pear - early season bearer?

Thank you Lucky!

My tree is less vertical, more spreading. than the Kieffer I bought a
few years ago from Century Farms. My first is severely infected with
blight but thrives. I generally live in a blight box (river valley) so
there is no escaping exposure here.

That second Kieffer tree has not borne yet, but is extremely vertical
and free of blight (different site though). The pears on my first tree
are big, look correct compared to photos of Kieffer I have seen. The
fruit is sweet, juicy, sandy, best cooked or dried. A neighbor has an
old Sand Pear (no idea of the origin) but it has a better fresh taste,
less sand, juicer and the fruit is smaller.

As you suggest, maybe most sand pears get labelled with Kieffer.

Elizabeth

On 1/11/2021 2:23 PM, Louis Pittman wrote:
> Betsy,
> There's an 'Improved Kieffer' that someone(Clark DeLisle, maybe?) sent me a
> few years ago. Is it different from the original, a budsport, or a
> seedling with similar but ?better? quality? ... I don't know...
>
> There are other 'sand pear' hybrids out there - like Garber, and, I
> presume, Orient, Pineapple, etc. - and offspring of those hybrids crossed
> with 'more desirable' European or Asian pears... like Ayers, Douglas,
> Dabney, Mooers, etc.
>
> Here's the NCGR Pyrus catalog of fireblight resistant varieties:
> https://www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/20721500/catalogs/pyrblres.html
>
> On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:33 AM Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> My Kieffer pear has not borne fruit for years due to a lack of
>> pollinators. But this year, Carpenter bees and some miner bees helped us
>> out. Our Kieffer tree bore a bumper crop in 2020.
>>
>> But this is my question: Now that I seek to buy a second Kieffer, the
>> variety descriptions all state that they ripen in October, some say into
>> November.
>>
>> In my orchard in 2020, the pears ripened in August-early September right
>> after Harrow Delight and before Potomac.
>>
>> What gives? I bought this tree from Stark Brothers about 17 years ago. I
>> had not noticed this discrepancy before. Are there different varieties
>> of 'sand pears' called 'Kieffer' circulating out there?
>>
>>
>> Thanks for any insight on this.
>>
>> Elizabeth Hilborn
>>
>> Zone 7a, central NC
>>
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Re: [nafex] Kieffer pear - early season bearer?

Betsy,
There's an 'Improved Kieffer' that someone(Clark DeLisle, maybe?) sent me a
few years ago. Is it different from the original, a budsport, or a
seedling with similar but ?better? quality? ... I don't know...

There are other 'sand pear' hybrids out there - like Garber, and, I
presume, Orient, Pineapple, etc. - and offspring of those hybrids crossed
with 'more desirable' European or Asian pears... like Ayers, Douglas,
Dabney, Mooers, etc.

Here's the NCGR Pyrus catalog of fireblight resistant varieties:
https://www.ars.usda.gov/ARSUserFiles/20721500/catalogs/pyrblres.html

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:33 AM Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> My Kieffer pear has not borne fruit for years due to a lack of
> pollinators. But this year, Carpenter bees and some miner bees helped us
> out. Our Kieffer tree bore a bumper crop in 2020.
>
> But this is my question: Now that I seek to buy a second Kieffer, the
> variety descriptions all state that they ripen in October, some say into
> November.
>
> In my orchard in 2020, the pears ripened in August-early September right
> after Harrow Delight and before Potomac.
>
> What gives? I bought this tree from Stark Brothers about 17 years ago. I
> had not noticed this discrepancy before. Are there different varieties
> of 'sand pears' called 'Kieffer' circulating out there?
>
>
> Thanks for any insight on this.
>
> Elizabeth Hilborn
>
> Zone 7a, central NC
>
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Re: [nafex] Kieffer pear - early season bearer?

Betsy,
While mislabeling can happen even at the best of nurseries, and it's worse
at places like TyTY - I've gotten more than one tree from a reputable
source that turned out not to be 'as labeled' - I would suspect that you
probably got the real deal from Starks.
If you'd been buying a 'Bartlett' at Lowe's, for instance, I wouldn't at
all be surprised - if it lived -10 years down the road, to find out that it
turned out to be Kieffer. lol.

Did the fruit match up with photos and descriptions of what Kieffer fruit
should be like?
No fruit here this year, and my own Keiffer trees are not yet bearing here,
so I can't attest to harvest period... but almost nothing here is later
than early September... and if it is, the European hornets eat it before
any chance of it ripening on the tree.

Lucky Pittman
Hopkinsville, KY

On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 10:33 AM Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
wrote:

> Hi folks,
>
> My Kieffer pear has not borne fruit for years due to a lack of
> pollinators. But this year, Carpenter bees and some miner bees helped us
> out. Our Kieffer tree bore a bumper crop in 2020.
>
> But this is my question: Now that I seek to buy a second Kieffer, the
> variety descriptions all state that they ripen in October, some say into
> November.
>
> In my orchard in 2020, the pears ripened in August-early September right
> after Harrow Delight and before Potomac.
>
> What gives? I bought this tree from Stark Brothers about 17 years ago. I
> had not noticed this discrepancy before. Are there different varieties
> of 'sand pears' called 'Kieffer' circulating out there?
>
>
> Thanks for any insight on this.
>
> Elizabeth Hilborn
>
> Zone 7a, central NC
>
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[nafex] Kieffer pear - early season bearer?

Hi folks,

My Kieffer pear has not borne fruit for years due to a lack of
pollinators. But this year, Carpenter bees and some miner bees helped us
out. Our Kieffer tree bore a bumper crop in 2020.

But this is my question: Now that I seek to buy a second Kieffer, the
variety descriptions all state that they ripen in October, some say into
November.

In my orchard in 2020, the pears ripened in August-early September right
after Harrow Delight and before Potomac.

What gives? I bought this tree from Stark Brothers about 17 years ago. I
had not noticed this discrepancy before.  Are there different varieties
of 'sand pears' called 'Kieffer' circulating out there?

Thanks for any insight on this.

Elizabeth Hilborn

Zone 7a, central NC

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