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Friday, May 8, 2020

Re: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher)

> On May 8, 2020, at 1:05 PM, Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:
>
> Well, despite those comments, I'm going to ask again (more specifically)
>
> Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those sound promising. I'm curious about differences in size, growth habit, productivity, and flavor of berries.
>
> Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years ago. They were very slow to establish and I'd forgotten about them. (They are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don't usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year.

Lol — I looked on-line to learn why I might have selected "little giant" (answer, because it has small fruits, somewhat like a wild blueberry) and discovered that there's a scam company of that name that advertises and sells that cultivar. I did not do business with a mail-order blueberry company as seen on TV. I ordered from Hartmann's, which isn't my favorite nursery, but was fine.

>
> Ginda
> Eastern MA, zone 6
>
>> On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net> wrote:
>>
>> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate.
>>
>> Elizabeth Hilborn
>>
>> On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote:
>>> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont.
>>>
>>> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt
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Re: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher)

Well, despite those comments, I'm going to ask again (more specifically)

Anyone have experience with either Bluecrop or Reka? Based on availability from a good local nursery and on-line descriptions, those sound promising. I'm curious about differences in size, growth habit, productivity, and flavor of berries.

Also, in happy news, I found some blueberries I planted a few years ago. They were very slow to establish and I'd forgotten about them. (They are on the edge of the property, and behind some scruffy bushes, so I don't usually see them.) Little Giant and tag-lost. :) They are now nice-looking mature plants, covered with blossoms. I plan to net them after the blossoms drop. I assume the critters will find a way to eat the berries anyway, but who knows, maybe I will actually harvest some blueberries this year.

Ginda
Eastern MA, zone 6

> On May 2, 2020, at 1:03 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net> wrote:
>
> I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a, NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15 miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate.
>
> Elizabeth Hilborn
>
> On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote:
>> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont.
>>
>> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt
>>
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Tuesday, May 5, 2020

Re: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock

That's interesting. It's my favorite apple of the ones I've eaten grown locally. And I would be cutting the wood from another tree in my yard, and just grafting to the one new rootstock, so not a high-risk endeavor. But that sounds plausible, as I've had poor long-term viability of apples I've grafted it too, including some native seedling crab apples. Like, the graft takes fine, but a year or 4 later the whole tree dies.

Ginda

> On May 5, 2020, at 11:30 AM, Idell Weydemeyer <iwgarden@earthlink.net> wrote:
>
> There was big discussion in the Santa Rosa CA area about how ashmead's kernel apple scions almost always has apple virus so we do not bring it to our scion exchanges-- on a tree by itself it is ok but can infect all the rest of the grafts in a mixed tree.
>
> Not sure how it is elsewhere.
>
> Idell Weydemeyer Zone 9b
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+iwgarden=earthlink.net@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf Of Ginda Fisher
> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 8:53 AM
> To: NAFEX Fruit Explorers <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock
>
> Well, I had an apricot tree for several years. Didn't get much fruit, because the squirrels like them green, but it was fun. Then it died of gummosis. I replaced it with another apricot, which has been doing okay. Until yesterday, when I noticed that there's a LOT of gum in the ground next to its trunk.
>
> So… should I buy one of Cummins's Orchards reduced-price apple rootstocks and graft something I like to it? I'd probably graft Ashmead's Kernal, because I have some on a tree in a crappy, not-enough-sun part of the yard, and this tree is in one of the best spots.
>
> If I do, any recommendations? Looking for something semi-dwarf. It needs to be large enough that eventually a deer won't eat the whole thing, but my Jonathan on M111 in the front yard would be too large for this spot.
>
> Cummins has:
> B9, G11, G41, G210, G202, G969, G890, and B118 in stock. just thinning that by size, G210, G202, G969 might be suitable. I'm thinking G210 looks too good to be true, so it probably has some problem I'm not aware of. Anyone tried it?
>
> Thanks,
> Ginda Fisher
> eastern MA, zone 6
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Re: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock

There was big discussion in the Santa Rosa CA area about how ashmead's kernel apple scions almost always has apple virus so we do not bring it to our scion exchanges-- on a tree by itself it is ok but can infect all the rest of the grafts in a mixed tree.

Not sure how it is elsewhere.

Idell Weydemeyer Zone 9b

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Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2020 8:53 AM
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Subject: [nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock

Well, I had an apricot tree for several years. Didn't get much fruit, because the squirrels like them green, but it was fun. Then it died of gummosis. I replaced it with another apricot, which has been doing okay. Until yesterday, when I noticed that there's a LOT of gum in the ground next to its trunk.

So… should I buy one of Cummins's Orchards reduced-price apple rootstocks and graft something I like to it? I'd probably graft Ashmead's Kernal, because I have some on a tree in a crappy, not-enough-sun part of the yard, and this tree is in one of the best spots.

If I do, any recommendations? Looking for something semi-dwarf. It needs to be large enough that eventually a deer won't eat the whole thing, but my Jonathan on M111 in the front yard would be too large for this spot.

Cummins has:
B9, G11, G41, G210, G202, G969, G890, and B118 in stock. just thinning that by size, G210, G202, G969 might be suitable. I'm thinking G210 looks too good to be true, so it probably has some problem I'm not aware of. Anyone tried it?

Thanks,
Ginda Fisher
eastern MA, zone 6
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[nafex] apricot gummosis and apple tree rootstock

Well, I had an apricot tree for several years. Didn't get much fruit, because the squirrels like them green, but it was fun. Then it died of gummosis. I replaced it with another apricot, which has been doing okay. Until yesterday, when I noticed that there's a LOT of gum in the ground next to its trunk.

So… should I buy one of Cummins's Orchards reduced-price apple rootstocks and graft something I like to it? I'd probably graft Ashmead's Kernal, because I have some on a tree in a crappy, not-enough-sun part of the yard, and this tree is in one of the best spots.

If I do, any recommendations? Looking for something semi-dwarf. It needs to be large enough that eventually a deer won't eat the whole thing, but my Jonathan on M111 in the front yard would be too large for this spot.

Cummins has:
B9, G11, G41, G210, G202, G969, G890, and B118 in stock. just thinning that by size, G210, G202, G969 might be suitable. I'm thinking G210 looks too good to be true, so it probably has some problem I'm not aware of. Anyone tried it?

Thanks,
Ginda Fisher
eastern MA, zone 6
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Saturday, May 2, 2020

Re: [nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher)

I second the site specificity. My favorite Rabbiteye variety in zone 7a,
NC is Centurion. Rich, jammy flavor at my site. I planted it again 15
miles down the road in 7b/8a and the flavor was nothing special once it
started fruiting. Different soil, sun, micro climate.

Elizabeth Hilborn

On 5/2/2020 10:08 AM, Rosholdt wrote:
> I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I
> like Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont.
>
> Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt
>
>
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[nafex] If you had one blueberry bush... (Ginda Fisher)

I have found that blueberry bushes are extremely site-sensitive. I like
Legacy, but that is just me in central Piedmont.

Zone 7a/6C, Barbara Rosholdt


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