Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.

On 3/29/2017 12:13 AM, Jim Fruth wrote:
> Can't be too crazy of an idea. I heard of a zone 3 fellow who grows a
> peach in an underground silo. He removes the cover during the growing
> season and puts it back on for the dormant season.
That is a novel idea but I don't believe entirely new. Some years back
and I recall on a NAFEX annual meeting while visiting Canada we saw long
cinder block buildings with walls about 10 foot high and movable clear
plastic tops. They were growing Actinidia deliciosa, kiwi fruit you see
in grocery stores. In the enclosure they would break dormancy and bloom.
As I recall they had bees internally for pollination. Then as the
outdoor temperatures raised which were acceptable to the kiwi the tops
were slid back. This was research to see if it could be done
economically to compete with California kiwi industry.

Near Altamont, Illinois there was a member of the Illinois nut growers
(deceased maybe 15 years) who had a long lean to greenhouse along the
south side of his barn. This greenhouse was maybe 100 foot long 20 foot
wide and 15 foot high. In this he planted kaki persimmons in the ground
which afforded him ample winter protection and successfully fruited kakis.

Jerry


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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.

Jim, I'm not familiar with this plum, but it also goes by the name 'Homesteader'. It is supposed to have a green skin with a red blush. I imagine the green turns to a yellowish green when it is fully ripe. It is sold by DNA Gardens in Canada. Some sources say it is hardy to Zone 2. -- Sam


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Can't be too crazy of an idea. I heard of a zone 3 fellow who grows a peach
in an underground silo. He removes the cover during the growing season and
puts it back on for the dormant season.

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Hi

I am trying to find some scionwood for Fofonoff plum. Do you have any we
could trade?

Steve

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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.

Can't be too crazy of an idea. I heard of a zone 3 fellow who grows a peach
in an underground silo. He removes the cover during the growing season and
puts it back on for the dormant season.

-----Original Message-----
From: Sarah and Steve Masterman
Sent: Tuesday, March 28, 2017 9:40 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to
grow.

Hi

I am trying to find some scionwood for Fofonoff plum. Do you have any we
could trade?

Steve

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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] What the crazy lady in zone 3 is trying to grow.

Hi

I am trying to find some scionwood for Fofonoff plum. Do you have any we could trade?

Steve

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[nafex] The Fluffy One's Email Address?

Greetings All -

Does anyone have the Fluffy One's current email address? The old email I
have for him is bouncing.

Thanks!

-Pete

Pete Chrisbacher
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[nafex] invitation as a presenter

On 3/20/2017 11:10 PM, Jim Fruth wrote:
> The purple raspberry that I developed will be sold by Hartmann Plant Company, Lakota, MI, starting this year. Besides the really delicious flavor, two traits make it outstanding. They are: 1) one 5 year old plant produced 16 pounds of fruit and 2)occupies 24 ft. of row. Thorns are numerous but tiny measuring only 2 to 3 mm. high. Hartmann has been selling my Zone 3 Black Raspberry and will soon introduce my zone 3 blackberry. common names will be added upon introductions.
Hi Jim,

The combined NAFEX/NNGA annual meeting will be held August 13, 14, 15
and 16 in Tifton Georgia. We have a few open spots for speakers and
invite you to make a presentation on brambles, your breeding work and
releases as well as culture. We have 20 and 30 minute openings.

Jerry Lehman
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Re: [nafex] Szukis x Rosseyanka/Nikita's Gift?

On 1/11/2017 12:03 AM, Steven Covacci wrote:
> 1. Is it possible that Rosseyanka (hybrid persimmon) or Nikita's Gift
> (hybrid persimmon) might sport a few male limbs/flowers on occasion?
>
> 2. If this is possible... is it also possible that a pollinator might visit
> a male blossom on Rosseyanka/Nikita's Gift and transfer this pollen to the
> female blossom of a nearby pure American persimmon (northern strain; 90-c),
> that viable seed would be produced through the crossing?
>
> 3. Can a 100% pure male American persimmon (northern strain) openly
> pollinated cross with Rosseyanka/Nikita's Gift, that viable seed would be
> produced; correct?
>
>
> Lastly, does anyone one have a collection of American persimmons that have
> no near by male persimmon trees -- no pollinator tree EXCEPT for Szukis?
> That they could send (/sell) me seed?
Hi Steve,

I ran across this message from January and I didn't find a record that I
had answered you.
Q # 1 I have never seen a staminate flower on any of my hybrids. I
wouldn't say impossible but highly highly highly unlikely.
Q # 2 if either of those hybrids ever produced a male flower then yes it
would be possible pollinate in 90 chromosome American persimmon.
Q # 3 Yes, 90 chromosome males will polymerize Rosseyanka and Nikita's
gift flowers. I have maybe a dozen or more of each. They grow contorted
and are slow to start bearing. And generally the fruits are of lesser
quality than either the hybrid or the virginiana.

Jerry
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