Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds

Sam, you know anyone distributing the red-leafed seedling peach. I
have a seedling peach grove with a lot of Siberian C and Iowa Indian
white peaches in the ground. I'd love add the red-leafed peach to the
planting.

On Sun, Mar 12, 2017 at 7:11 AM, Hank Parker <hwpark@kahres.org> wrote:
> I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.
>
> Hank Parker
> Maple syrup makers never die,
> They just evaporate!
>
>
>
>
>> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5, though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>>
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>> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
>> could handle zone 4.
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds

The Indians grew peaches over a wide area of North America, and there
have been several "Indian Peach" cultivars and lines
brought to notice over the years. You may find a discussion in "The
Peaches of New York" by Hedrick.

Peach growers in the Niagara Peninsula favour "Bailey" seedlings for
rootstock; this is an old Indian peach from Iowa;
there are several selections of widely varying fruit quality.
Apparently it's not particularly early to harden off.

"Siberian C", "Chui Lum Tao", and "Tzim Pee Tao" are hardier but not so
generally satisfactory as rootstocks in this area.

I think that Minneapolis would be pushing it a little too far for the
available peach genetic material through test winters, even selecting
the hardiest seedlings. However, apparently some peaches survive most
winters in Minneapolis in protected locations.

Some Manchurian apricot selections are hardy on the southern Canadian
prairies although some have dormancy problems, and the Morden station of
Agriculture Canada in southwestern Manitoba bred "Morden 604" and
"Westcot"; crosses between P. mandschurica and P. armenaica. Regular
bearing should not be expected. Apricots like peaches prefer light
well-drained soils.

It might be more rewarding to try the hardy plums and cherryplums in
Minneapolis. The state extension service should have some
recommendations. Yakima (Prunus domestica) plum is reported shy bearing
but big, high-quality and semi-hardy at Minneapolis. I read that Krikon
Damson from Sweden ("krikon" means damson in Swedish) is hardy at
Minneapolis; a little hardier than Mount Royal.

See
<http://www.extension.umn.edu/garden/yard-garden/fruit/stone-fruit-for-minnesota-gardens/#about>

You might find some useful information at
http://www.fruit.usask.ca

Have a look at
<http://forums.gardenweb.com/discussions/1493505/advice-on-northern-peach-growing>
and
<http://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex/2005-June/019211.html>

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada

On Sat, 11 Mar 2017 22:27:02 +0000 (UTC), Henry via nafex
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> J L Hudson, Seedsman, is offering "Indian peach" seeds.
>
> PRUNUS
> —Prunus Persica 'Indian Peach'. (10) PRUN-97. Packet: $2.50 [ten
> seeds per packet]
> 100 seed: $15.00
>
> http://thehistoricfoodie.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/more-on-the-indian-peach/
> Fresh seed stored in cold storage.
> 'INDIAN PEACH'. Small peaches with small seed, but very delicious.
> Comes true from seed. Peaches were introduced very early by the
> Spanish, and spread among the Indians and taken as their own. Very
> productive, said to produce the third year from seed, bearing heavy
> crops of the small delicious peaches. Plant on receipt.
>
> http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/New%20Arrivals.htm
>
> I have ordered from this company for many years and have been happy
> with their seeds, though I have not tried these peaches.
>
> --Henry Fieldseth
> Minneapolis, Minnesota, Zone 4

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Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds

I have two Siberian peach trees that are white fleshed and late/Sept producing. They have been hardy for some years in zone 4.

Hank Parker
Maple syrup makers never die,
They just evaporate!




> On Mar 12, 2017, at 7:59 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5, though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>
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> Sent: Saturday, March 11, 2017 4:45 PM
> To: Henry; mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds
>
> Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
> could handle zone 4.
>
> On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Re: [nafex] "Indian peach" seeds

I'm sure they cannot handle zone 4 cold. Should do very well in Zone 5, though. At least one of our members has redleaf-peaches. another seed-propagated landrace that is also very tough and prolific. When I was a kid growing up in Kansas, I had two trees that were watered with runoff from a chicken house. Very small, flavorful, white-fleshed peaches. Mom used to make jam from them. She also pickled them to serve with holiday meals, particularly ham and muscovy duck. Delicious! -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)

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Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
could handle zone 4.

On Sat, Mar 11, 2017 at 4:43 PM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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Yea, these were also known as the Mission peach. I'm doubting they
could handle zone 4.

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> I wonder if they are hardy to the upper midwest.
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[nafex] "Indian peach" seeds

J L Hudson, Seedsman, is offering "Indian peach" seeds.

PRUNUS
—Prunus Persica 'Indian Peach'. (10) PRUN-97. Packet: $2.50 [ten seeds per packet]
100 seed: $15.00
http://thehistoricfoodie.wordpress.com/2014/06/05/more-on-the-indian-peach/
Fresh seed stored in cold storage.
'INDIAN PEACH'. Small peaches with small seed, but very delicious. Comes true from seed. Peaches were introduced very early by the Spanish, and spread among the Indians and taken as their own. Very productive, said to produce the third year from seed, bearing heavy crops of the small delicious peaches. Plant on receipt.

http://www.jlhudsonseeds.net/New%20Arrivals.htm

I have ordered from this company for many years and have been happy with their seeds, though I have not tried these peaches.

--Henry Fieldseth
Minneapolis, Minnesota, Zone 4
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