Re: [nafex] Black and White Walnuts question

Jim
In regards to the buts not filling
In the last 25 or so year I have seen seasonal weather conditions to be
mainly responsible for this even like to much rain and not enough heat units
during ripening time

as we had last season it was far too much rain during the growth period
which was great for the trees bad for the nuts and then it turned off dry
with no rain after July and the nuts never filled so no goody in side this
well-formed nuts.

Wala it has been the case several year in the past 10 year and the worst
case is when it rains during pollen shed and no nuts are formed Nuts trees
are wind pollinated and the rain washes the pollen out of the air

Cliff


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1. Re: Now: Northstar cherries - Was: Saving cherries from the
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Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 19:30:18 -0500
From: Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
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Thanks! I appreciate the cultural details. I had envisioned a central
leader...

On 2/4/2016 1:27 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
> Betsy,
>
> I have been growing Northstars for about 20 years now...
>
> They are very attractive landscape trees.
>
> You can easily hold them at 6 feet so they can be netted completely. I
suggest you prune to a classic vase shape with 4 main scaffolds.
>
> The are susceptible to brown rot, although I usually do not spray for it
as I have enough trees that I still get enough fruit. Also if you train as
I suggested you can mitigate it through cultural practices as well as the
application of a box fan after it rains etc.
>
> There appears to be strains out there also, with some with larger fruit
than others.
>
> They hang well on the tree, and I harvest mine for weeks and week sat all
stages of ripeness. But if you let them stay on the tree for along, long
time they will become very dark and sweeten up some, becoming a delicious
sweet-tart.
>
> I usually spray mine once for PC, and that is all they need to keep the PC
off them. I pit all mine etc, and now and then there is a larvae in there
but it is very, very rare for me. So one spray it is.
>
> Kindest regards...
>
> the fluffy bunny
>
>
>
> --- ehilborn@mebtel.net wrote:
>
> From: Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
<nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Saving cherries from the birds (Good Fruit Grower)
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 06:58:44 -0500
>
> I have nothing to measure yet. My tree is not bearing. They will be
> North Star 'sour' cherries.
>
> I would imagine they will be smaller than the sweet store bought Bing
> cherries. Does anyone have experience with this variety?
>
> Betsy
>
>
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I have encountered both kinds of trees that produced hollow nuts. Are both
kinds typically self sterile?



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[nafex] Black and White Walnuts question

I have encountered both kinds of trees that produced hollow nuts. Are both
kinds typically self sterile?

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Re: [nafex] Now: Northstar cherries - Was: Saving cherries from the birds

Thanks! I appreciate the cultural details. I had envisioned a central
leader...

On 2/4/2016 1:27 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
> Betsy,
>
> I have been growing Northstars for about 20 years now...
>
> They are very attractive landscape trees.
>
> You can easily hold them at 6 feet so they can be netted completely. I suggest you prune to a classic vase shape with 4 main scaffolds.
>
> The are susceptible to brown rot, although I usually do not spray for it as I have enough trees that I still get enough fruit. Also if you train as I suggested you can mitigate it through cultural practices as well as the application of a box fan after it rains etc.
>
> There appears to be strains out there also, with some with larger fruit than others.
>
> They hang well on the tree, and I harvest mine for weeks and week sat all stages of ripeness. But if you let them stay on the tree for along, long time they will become very dark and sweeten up some, becoming a delicious sweet-tart.
>
> I usually spray mine once for PC, and that is all they need to keep the PC off them. I pit all mine etc, and now and then there is a larvae in there but it is very, very rare for me. So one spray it is.
>
> Kindest regards...
>
> the fluffy bunny
>
>
>
> --- ehilborn@mebtel.net wrote:
>
> From: Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Saving cherries from the birds (Good Fruit Grower)
> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 06:58:44 -0500
>
> I have nothing to measure yet. My tree is not bearing. They will be
> North Star 'sour' cherries.
>
> I would imagine they will be smaller than the sweet store bought Bing
> cherries. Does anyone have experience with this variety?
>
> Betsy
>
>
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Re: [nafex] Dwarf Geraldi Mulberry

"Greetings Richard,
 
No success with rooting this year.   I have read that mulberry is easy to root, I have never had any success. 
 
Lester
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Dwarf Geraldi Mulberry

I tried to root hardwood cuttings of Geraldi and they rooted but never
leafed out and eventually died. I would like to know how this turns out for
you.

I also have the Dwarf Issai mulberry which is only a foot tall (on its own
roots) and is loaded with fruit.  I may have a very limited amount
of budwood available if anyone is interested. It is supposed to be hardy to
zone 5 but I have never tried to verify this since it is so easy to grow in
a pot.  It is supposedly a dwarf Morus alba and I got my original plant
from Logees.

Richard Hansen
Zone 4b

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 10:05 PM, Lester Davis <lhdavis8@knology.net> wrote:

> Geraldi mulberry stays dwarf when grafted on other rootstock.  Mine is not
> over 7 feet tall and diameter about the same and is over 15 years.  It is
> dwarfed because of the short distance
> between the nodes.  Since the nodes are so close  and the fruit normal
> size it appears more heavy loaded than any other mulberry.  I have taken
> softwood cuttings this spring and trying
> to root, have had no success with cuttings taken winter pruning.
>
> Lester H. Davis
>
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Re: [nafex] carmine jewel cherry

I bought three carmine jewel about 5 years ago. I planned on in my backyard, and gave the other two to friends. All in zone 6, eastern ma.

The first year, one was eaten to the ground, but it resprouted the next year. All three have grown well since then, and were perhaps 6-7 feet tall last year. All bloomed a little two years ago, and bloomed heavily last year. Oddly for a cherry, they bloomed after the leaves had sprouted. The flowers are small and inconspicuous.

All three trees set a little fruit two years ago, and set a lot of fruit last year. All three owners caged our trees last summer, and despite that, the critters ate every single cherry of all three trees well before they ripened. None of us has tasted the fruit.

My tree has been very healthy. I've seen minor insect damage, and no sign of other problems. I pruned mine heavily last fall, to keep it inside the cage, which I plan to reinforce with a floor this summer.

Other than critter problems, the trees have been very low maintenance.

Ginda Fisher
Eastern Massachusetts, zone 6

On February 4, 2016 4:48:04 PM EST, Maria <mariaschu@vtlink.net> wrote:
>We had our first biggish harvest from 10 Carmine Jewels we planted
>around 5 years ago. The fruit was nice, tarter than I expected. I
>know
>you are supposed to wait until they are really black to pick them-- but
>
>when we waited too long to pick it, the fruit got some kind of mold.
>The bushes have done great here in zone3/4, with very little care, just
>
>a once a spring mulch & compost. We also planted Crimson Passion, a
>year later, got a few fruit last summer and it is indeed sweeter than
>Carmine Jewel.
>
>On 2/4/16 3:31 PM, Melissa Kacalanos wrote:
>> Carmine Jewel did well for me in zone 5 central NY state. Bloomed
>quite late for a cherry, long past danger of frost. The birds loved the
>fruit. Late in the season, the leaves got some slight yellow spots, but
>not too bad. I moved away not long after I planted it, so sorry I can't
>report more than that.
>>
>> Melissa, now zone 7b near Atlanta
>>
>>
>>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Does anyone have experience with the bushy tart cherry, Juliet?
>Flavor? Pest resistance? Or its siblings, Romeo, or Carmine Jewel?
>>>
>>> Lee
>>> Lee Reich, PhD
>>> Come visit my farmden at http://www.leereich.com/blog
><http://www.leereich.com/blog>
>>> http://leereich.com/ <http://leereich.com/>
>>>
>>> Books by Lee Reich:
>>> A Northeast Gardener's Year
>>> The Pruning Book
>>> Weedless Gardening
>>> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>>> Landscaping with Fruit
>>> Grow Fruit Naturally
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Re: [nafex] Juliet cherry

We had our first biggish harvest from 10 Carmine Jewels we planted
around 5 years ago. The fruit was nice, tarter than I expected. I know
you are supposed to wait until they are really black to pick them-- but
when we waited too long to pick it, the fruit got some kind of mold.
The bushes have done great here in zone3/4, with very little care, just
a once a spring mulch & compost. We also planted Crimson Passion, a
year later, got a few fruit last summer and it is indeed sweeter than
Carmine Jewel.

On 2/4/16 3:31 PM, Melissa Kacalanos wrote:
> Carmine Jewel did well for me in zone 5 central NY state. Bloomed quite late for a cherry, long past danger of frost. The birds loved the fruit. Late in the season, the leaves got some slight yellow spots, but not too bad. I moved away not long after I planted it, so sorry I can't report more than that.
>
> Melissa, now zone 7b near Atlanta
>
>
>> On Feb 4, 2016, at 1:31 PM, Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Does anyone have experience with the bushy tart cherry, Juliet? Flavor? Pest resistance? Or its siblings, Romeo, or Carmine Jewel?
>>
>> Lee
>> Lee Reich, PhD
>> Come visit my farmden at http://www.leereich.com/blog <http://www.leereich.com/blog>
>> http://leereich.com/ <http://leereich.com/>
>>
>> Books by Lee Reich:
>> A Northeast Gardener's Year
>> The Pruning Book
>> Weedless Gardening
>> Uncommon Fruits for Every Garden
>> Landscaping with Fruit
>> Grow Fruit Naturally
>>
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Re: [nafex] Another scion wood offer

I have a couple small trees but I think the scionwood isn't great.  Could maybe send you a tree but for the $s you could find a lot more & better scionwood!

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 2:36 PM, Jim Fruth <jimfruth@charter.net> wrote:

Do you have Frost Bite Apple?

Jim Fruth

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To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: [nafex] Another scion wood offer

I haven't done my scion collecting yet this winter, so if anyone wants any
that I've offered in prior years, please speak up.  I'll try to get a stick
or 2 for you.

    On Wednesday, February 3, 2016 6:50 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi
<fuwafuwausagi@muchomail.com> wrote:

Gang,

Each year I try and extend the same generosity so many have shown to me, to
others....

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