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Thursday, November 6, 2014

Re: [nafex] Honey Locust

The ones I have tasted must have fermented; they tasted sweet, but not
very good. I am open to another try though.

Did you pick up pods that had fallen, or did you pick from the tree?

Betsy Hilborn



On 11/6/2014 6:38 AM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote:
I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am
absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that
the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat
them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it
tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of
getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the
best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding
work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a
seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps
be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop
and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does
anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate
trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I
see there is an interest group for honey locust.
Consider me interested.
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Re: [nafex] Honey Locust

Andy Wilson has been working with honey locust for decades.

Doug Woodard
St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada


On Thu, 6 Nov 2014 11:43:46 -0500 (EST), "PATTY "
<jrplelie@centurylink.net> wrote:
> Devin,
>
> Don't know if you have visited the Honey Locust Agroforestry website
> but it does have some good info. I have spoken to Andy Wilson in the
> past and he sounds pretty knowledgeable but the website and honey
> locusts may be a passing interest for him. However the info they
> have
> online is actually pretty good. This link may help answer your
> question about honey locust pollination.
>
>
> http://faculty.virginia.edu/honeylocust-agroforestry/agroforestry/HoneylocustAgroforestry.htm
>
> Jim Elie
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Devin Smith via nafex" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:38:45 AM
> Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust
>
> I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am
> absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion
> that
> the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat
> them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me
> it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different
> ways
> of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know
> the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little
> breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if
> there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it
> would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to
> extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they
> are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are
> possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile
> polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for
> honey locust.
> Consider me interested.

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Re: [nafex] Honey Locust

Devin,

Don't know if you have visited the Honey Locust Agroforestry website but it does have some good info. I have spoken to Andy Wilson in the past and he sounds pretty knowledgeable but the website and honey locusts may be a passing interest for him. However the info they have online is actually pretty good. This link may help answer your question about honey locust pollination.

http://faculty.virginia.edu/honeylocust-agroforestry/agroforestry/HoneylocustAgroforestry.htm

Jim Elie

----- Original Message -----
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To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Sent: Thursday, November 6, 2014 5:38:45 AM
Subject: [nafex] Honey Locust

I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust.
Consider me interested.
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[nafex] Honey Locust

I just had my first real taste of honey locust pod goop and am absolutely hooked. I'd never really thought much of the assertion that the pods were "edible", knowing only that it was a lot of work to eat them and that the stuff inside was kind of sweet. No one ever told me it tasted like tropical taffy! I've since tried lots of different ways of getting out the pulp, no of them totally satisfactory. Anyone know the best way to get the goop out? Its hard to believe so little breeding work has been done to improve these. It would be great if there was a seedless pod variety that produced lots of goop. Then it would perhaps be possible to run the pods through a set of rollers to extract the goop and perhaps obtain it in quantity. I understand they are dioecious. Does anyone know if seedless pods with goop are possible from pistillate trees, or would some kind of sterile polyploid perhaps be required? I see there is an interest group for honey locust.
Consider me interested.
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Tuesday, November 4, 2014

Re: [nafex] Pawpaws

Wow! Very interesting list! I am liking my northern pecans!

-Pete


Pete Chrisbacher
Kennett Square, PA

On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 8:34 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
wrote:

> Very interesting.
>
> This report has a larger list of foods high in Proanthocyanidins in Table
> 1. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/3/613.long#T1
>
>
>
> On 11/4/2014 4:35 AM, Larry D. Cook via nafex wrote:
>
>> I didn't know this about Pawpaw
>> Larry D. Cook
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble
>> vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and
>> pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain
>> condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria
>> from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are
>> particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a
>> host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [nafex] Pawpaws

Very interesting.

This report has a larger list of foods high in Proanthocyanidins in
Table 1. http://jn.nutrition.org/content/134/3/613.long#T1


On 11/4/2014 4:35 AM, Larry D. Cook via nafex wrote:
> I didn't know this about Pawpaw
> Larry D. Cook
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and
>
>

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[nafex] Pawpaws

I didn't know this about Pawpaw
Larry D. Cook






In captivity, the diet should include nutritious fruits with oil soluble vitamins, like the North American paw paw, dried cranberries and pomegranates where available. These fruits are invaluable as they contain condensed tannins called proanthocyanidins that prevent E. coli bacteria from attaching to cells in the digestive tract. Green Junglefowl are particularly vulnerable to Marek's disease, mycoplasma, pseudomonas and a host of other ailments that attack the digestive tract and

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