Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

Probably 15+ yrs ago, I got cuttings of two dozen different pomegranate
varieties from NCGR.
Planted them in-ground here in southern west-central KY, just 20 miles
north of the TN border - and zone 6/7interface.
All but two died out over the past decade and a half. None ever fruited.
I dug the last two survivors... probably Kazake or Salavatski - last spring
and put them in pots, as we were renovating that spot to raspberries. I
think I probably let them die over the summer when I stopped watering
potted plants in my little potted plant nursery area.
I'm brutally neglectful. If a plant can't pretty much make it on its own
with minimal to no care from me, it's eventually gonna die or be replaced.

Lucky

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 8:19 PM Devin Smith via nafex <
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> Lucky mentioned rooting pomegranates. As it happens, I'm hunting around
> for a pomegranate or two that would be viable in my high tunnel here in VT.
> I'm generally of the thinking that ripening time is going to be the crucial
> thing, not so much hardiness. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to
> winter it over in the ground or if I'll need to dig it each year. We have
> been duly impressed by the difference floating row cover has made though,
> often 5-6 degrees. Also, it's pretty remarkable how differently plants
> respond to cold in the high tunnel. We registered 27 or 28 degrees several
> times inside with no sign of frost on tender things like cucumbers, summer
> squash, and tomatoes. We have an indoor/outdoor thermometer with one right
> at ground level and the other at chest height, so temp stratification can't
> explain it. All of this makes me think that wrapping may be an option.
>
>
>
>
> Those of you growing pomegranates at the margins, what is your experience
> like? How do you protect or overwinter them? What varieties would you
> suggest?
>
> Thanks!
> -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

*In 2006, I received cuttings of Siberian Pomegranates (Agate and Kazake)
to test them here in Thornhill Ontario (zone 6B just north of Toronto).
They rooted easily in a vermiculite tent medium indoors (shaded) and I
nurtured them into potted outdoor plants. They overwintered in my garage
which at times was minus 10-15 Deg Celsius, but the plants did survive,
ultimately growing to a meter in height in a 16 inch pot. After 3 years,
they had copious gorgeous flowers (minimal female flowers) and did bear
fruit. Fruiting was sparse, about a dozen or so on 4 plants, from marble to
tennis ball size. Sweetness was quasi due to our short growing season and
our usually high summer humidity. I found they required much water and
quickly went dormant with the cool October temperatures. Had our growing
season been two weeks longer, I'm sure the fruit quality would have
improved. I found the plants degenerated thereafter and after a few years,
died away, the last one dying in 2021. Still the process was interesting.*

*I did plant one cutting into a NW exposure near my house foundation. It
grew well in the summer and in spite of being covered with snow over the
winter, the stems died back to the ground. The plant did sprout again the
following spring! Since fruit is only borne on 2+ year old stems, the whole
purpose is defeated and the plant was removed.*


*I found pomegranates generally similar to the propagation of figs of which
I maintain six varieties - but there again, although I have much better
crops, production and maturation is reduced from our shorter and humid
growing season. (Oiling with olive oil in late August does help)*

*John Barbowski - amateur gardener*


*Two pics attached with 2 commercial fruit on the left on the left and one
of the flowers*



On Tue, Jan 24, 2023 at 11:45 AM yearroundgardening@comcast.net <
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> Here in Houston, pomegranates routinely take mid-teen temperatures when
> they are dormant, but freeze back badly when they aren't. But we very
> rarely get anything below 25˚F. Ours two years ago survived with dieback a
> late freeze at 15˚F. If you can keep them above 20˚F, you shouldn't have a
> problem on that end. Also of course, they root easily from cuttings so you
> can always hedge your bets.
>
> They really like hot dry weather for production. Whether you can get ripe
> fruit that far north with so much darkness late in the fall is another
> question. Lights?
>
> Bob Randall, Ph.D.
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Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

Here in Houston, pomegranates routinely take mid-teen temperatures when they are dormant, but freeze back badly when they aren't. But we very rarely get anything below 25˚F. Ours two years ago survived with dieback a late freeze at 15˚F. If you can keep them above 20˚F, you shouldn't have a problem on that end. Also of course, they root easily from cuttings so you can always hedge your bets.

They really like hot dry weather for production. Whether you can get ripe fruit that far north with so much darkness late in the fall is another question. Lights?

Bob Randall, Ph.D.

> On Jan 23, 2023, at 8:18 PM, Devin Smith via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> Lucky mentioned rooting pomegranates. As it happens, I'm hunting around for a pomegranate or two that would be viable in my high tunnel here in VT. I'm generally of the thinking that ripening time is going to be the crucial thing, not so much hardiness. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to winter it over in the ground or if I'll need to dig it each year. We have been duly impressed by the difference floating row cover has made though, often 5-6 degrees. Also, it's pretty remarkable how differently plants respond to cold in the high tunnel. We registered 27 or 28 degrees several times inside with no sign of frost on tender things like cucumbers, summer squash, and tomatoes. We have an indoor/outdoor thermometer with one right at ground level and the other at chest height, so temp stratification can't explain it. All of this makes me think that wrapping may be an option.
>
>
>
>
> Those of you growing pomegranates at the margins, what is your experience like? How do you protect or overwinter them? What varieties would you suggest?
>
> Thanks!
> -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

Thanks, Lee. That real world experience is just what I was looking for. I was looking at Sverkhranniy myself, as it seems to be one of the earliest around. I'd love a stick or two if you'd spare it. Too bad that it hasn't really shaped up in terms of quality. I've trialed lots of different subtropical and non-hardy fruits here in SE Vermont. Now that we have a high tunnel (30x48 and covered in Solawrap) I have some more options for stretching the season on some of this stuff. I'd really like a heated space so that I can grow things in the ground, but that's not in the cards for the time being. A lot of things haven't done well because the phenology is just not there. I grew out some Loquat seed and grafted named varieties onto them some years back. They flowered in early-mid winter and there just wasn't enough sunlight to size the fruit up much or give them sweetness. Lots of things I tried have thrived in warm weather but resented the abrupt shift to months long cold and dark in my well lit basement. I've also tried carambola, guava, strawberry guava, pineapple guava (Feijoa), Chilean guava (Ugni), and a couple different Annona species. Most died or failed to thrive. Probably others I'm forgetting. The things I've stuck with are Citrus and Fortunella (and their hybrids), figs (modestly successful, need to try in the ground), and tree tomatoes (Cyphomandra), which are probably the most productive for me. All seem to do just fine with extended dormancy and flower /fruit at times where the weather is reasonably copacetic. Most importantly, they actually taste good!

-Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

My plant, Sverkhranniy, is allegedly cold-hardy to just below zero degrees F, but have it potted and in a cooler for winter. Last spring I moved it into my greenhouse once weather warmed. I hand pollinated and, for the first time, ripened a fruit. The flavor was disappointing.

I might give it one more year to prove its worth, ot not. In the many years that I've grown it, I've had very few blossoms and fruit, probably because I haven't allowed it to grow large enough. Gotta keep the pot manageable to move around.

Plenty of heat here in summer and, surely, in the greenhouse.

Lee
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•Grow Fruit Naturally
•Growing Figs in Cold Climates
• Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 23, 2023, at 11:38 PM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:
>
> I see what you mean about ripening time. Your season may not be long enough. It may also not be hot enough.
>
> I am in New Mexico at about 4700 feet. We get temperatures here down to a few degrees below zero at times. I have my pomegranates surrounded by a wall of straw bales two layers high. The whole area is covered with a clear tarp and I have heat fixtures inside it that go on at 20 degrees.
>
> My understanding is that the plants don't want to get below 15 or 20 degrees without the tops being killed. I have soft seeded varieties, which are a little less hardy than the hard seeded ones. Younger plants are probably even more susceptible.
>
> The new leaves in the spring seem to be very sensitive to temperatures below 32. The straw enclosures make them leaf out early so I have to keep them protected until we are way past a frost danger. The good news is that they get an earlier start at growing. You might also be able to extend the season with the kind of enclosure I described.
>
> I've had the impression - though I've never tested it out - that dwarf pomegranates may be hardier and may ripen their fruit earlier.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
>
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> On 1/23/2023 7:18 PM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote:
>> Lucky mentioned rooting pomegranates. As it happens, I'm hunting around for a pomegranate or two that would be viable in my high tunnel here in VT. I'm generally of the thinking that ripening time is going to be the crucial thing, not so much hardiness. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to winter it over in the ground or if I'll need to dig it each year. We have been duly impressed by the difference floating row cover has made though, often 5-6 degrees. Also, it's pretty remarkable how differently plants respond to cold in the high tunnel. We registered 27 or 28 degrees several times inside with no sign of frost on tender things like cucumbers, summer squash, and tomatoes. We have an indoor/outdoor thermometer with one right at ground level and the other at chest height, so temp stratification can't explain it. All of this makes me think that wrapping may be an option.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Those of you growing pomegranates at the margins, what is your experience like? How do you protect or overwinter them? What varieties would you suggest?
>>
>> Thanks!
>> -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

I see what you mean about ripening time. Your season may not be long
enough. It may also not be hot enough.

I am in New Mexico at about 4700 feet. We get temperatures here down to
a few degrees below zero at times. I have my pomegranates surrounded by
a wall of straw bales two layers high. The whole area is covered with a
clear tarp and I have heat fixtures inside it that go on at 20 degrees.

My understanding is that the plants don't want to get below 15 or 20
degrees without the tops being killed. I have soft seeded varieties,
which are a little less hardy than the hard seeded ones. Younger plants
are probably even more susceptible.

The new leaves in the spring seem to be very sensitive to temperatures
below 32.  The straw enclosures make them leaf out early so I have to
keep them protected until we are way past a frost danger. The good news
is that they get an earlier start at growing. You might also be able to
extend the season with the kind of enclosure I described.

I've had the impression - though I've never tested it out - that dwarf
pomegranates may be hardier and may ripen their fruit earlier.

Regards,

Jay

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On 1/23/2023 7:18 PM, Devin Smith via nafex wrote:
> Lucky mentioned rooting pomegranates. As it happens, I'm hunting around for a pomegranate or two that would be viable in my high tunnel here in VT. I'm generally of the thinking that ripening time is going to be the crucial thing, not so much hardiness. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to winter it over in the ground or if I'll need to dig it each year. We have been duly impressed by the difference floating row cover has made though, often 5-6 degrees. Also, it's pretty remarkable how differently plants respond to cold in the high tunnel. We registered 27 or 28 degrees several times inside with no sign of frost on tender things like cucumbers, summer squash, and tomatoes. We have an indoor/outdoor thermometer with one right at ground level and the other at chest height, so temp stratification can't explain it. All of this makes me think that wrapping may be an option.
>
>
>
>
> Those of you growing pomegranates at the margins, what is your experience like? How do you protect or overwinter them? What varieties would you suggest?
>
> Thanks!
> -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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Re: [nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

I've grown the hardier pomegranates here in the Hudson Vally of NY, colder part of Zone 5. You will definitely have to dig up an outdoor plant and move it to winter protection. In tunnel, it depends on your outdoor temperature, the size of the tunnel, and how far the plant is from any of the edges.

Lee
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•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
•A Northeast Gardener's Year
•The Pruning Book
•Weedless Gardening
•Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
•Landscaping with Fruit
•Grow Fruit Naturally
•Growing Figs in Cold Climates
• Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 23, 2023, at 9:18 PM, Devin Smith via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> Lucky mentioned rooting pomegranates. As it happens, I'm hunting around for a pomegranate or two that would be viable in my high tunnel here in VT. I'm generally of the thinking that ripening time is going to be the crucial thing, not so much hardiness. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to winter it over in the ground or if I'll need to dig it each year. We have been duly impressed by the difference floating row cover has made though, often 5-6 degrees. Also, it's pretty remarkable how differently plants respond to cold in the high tunnel. We registered 27 or 28 degrees several times inside with no sign of frost on tender things like cucumbers, summer squash, and tomatoes. We have an indoor/outdoor thermometer with one right at ground level and the other at chest height, so temp stratification can't explain it. All of this makes me think that wrapping may be an option.
>
>
>
>
> Those of you growing pomegranates at the margins, what is your experience like? How do you protect or overwinter them? What varieties would you suggest?
>
> Thanks!
> -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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[nafex] Pomegranates for cold places

Lucky mentioned rooting pomegranates. As it happens, I'm hunting around for a pomegranate or two that would be viable in my high tunnel here in VT. I'm generally of the thinking that ripening time is going to be the crucial thing, not so much hardiness. I'm not sure if I'll actually be able to winter it over in the ground or if I'll need to dig it each year. We have been duly impressed by the difference floating row cover has made though, often 5-6 degrees. Also, it's pretty remarkable how differently plants respond to cold in the high tunnel. We registered 27 or 28 degrees several times inside with no sign of frost on tender things like cucumbers, summer squash, and tomatoes. We have an indoor/outdoor thermometer with one right at ground level and the other at chest height, so temp stratification can't explain it. All of this makes me think that wrapping may be an option. 

Those of you growing pomegranates at the margins, what is your experience like? How do you protect or overwinter them? What varieties would you suggest? 

Thanks!
-Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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Re: [nafex] Easy to root

Fig cuttings. Grape, kiwi, bramble vines.

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> Good stuff, Devin.
> Agree - you can stick elderberry & gooseberry - and pomegranate - at almost
> any stage and dare them not to root - even without 'bottom heat'.
>
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> On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 4:37 PM Devin Smith via nafex <
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> > Hi Dennis (and Lucky)-
> > I second Lucky's statement re: semi-hardwood cuttings. Generally
> speaking,
> > they'll give you the best take for the least fuss. You may have to play
> > with timing a bit to see what works. You want the buds to be fully
> formed,
> > but the wood to be not yet fully lignified. It works on lots of things.
> Try
> > different species and varieties, they'll vary often across varieties.
> I'd
> > also suggest taking them at intervals of a week or two apart. Generally
> > mid-July is a good rough timeframe. You will have luck with hardwood
> > cuttings on some easy stuff. Elders and some varieties of white mulberry
> > would be in this camp. Ditto any Ribes and some Grossularia. Harder
> stuff,
> > you could try the etiolated shoot method, where you occlude the light
> for a
> > month or two. You won't be able to do it at scale though, most likely.
> I'd
> > suggest fooling around and seeing what works for you. Every setup is
> > different and your mileage may vary! If you're pruning anyway, stick em
> and
> > see if they strike! Don't forget about root cuttings too.
> > Have fun!
> > -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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> > Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
> > do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
> > I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a
> 50%
> > shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist.
> In
> > my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand
> and
> > bottom heat.
> > Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood
> > cuttings?
> > Any guidance would be appreciated.
> > thanks
> > Dennis
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> > Dennis,
> > I grew up propagating azaleas, camellias, roses with my dad, in a bed
> > similar to what you're describing, but ours was framed up of 2X12 boards
> > and contained what was initially a 50/50 mix of sand and peat moss. and
> > was in a fairly shady area on the east side of the house, over topped by
> a
> > couple of cherrybark oaks. No mist, but no direct sun, and they got
> > watered daily.
> > Later on, I rooted pomegranates and blueberries in it.
> >
> > I've had fair success with semi-hardwood mulberry cuttings collected
> from
> > about mid-July on... making a 'humidity chamber' can be as easy as
> placing
> > a glass jar over individual cuttings, or inverting a clear plastic
> storage
> > tote over a larger group of cuttings.
> >
> > Lucky
> >
> > On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 7:29 PM Dennis B <pogohome@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I
> can
> > > do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
> > > I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a
> > 50%
> > > shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist.
> > In
> > > my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand
> > and
> > > bottom heat.
> > > Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood
> > > cuttings?
> > > Any guidance would be appreciated.
> > > thanks
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Good stuff, Devin.
Agree - you can stick elderberry & gooseberry - and pomegranate - at almost
any stage and dare them not to root - even without 'bottom heat'.

Lucky

On Mon, Jan 23, 2023 at 4:37 PM Devin Smith via nafex <
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> Hi Dennis (and Lucky)-
> I second Lucky's statement re: semi-hardwood cuttings. Generally speaking,
> they'll give you the best take for the least fuss. You may have to play
> with timing a bit to see what works. You want the buds to be fully formed,
> but the wood to be not yet fully lignified. It works on lots of things. Try
> different species and varieties, they'll vary often across varieties. I'd
> also suggest taking them at intervals of a week or two apart. Generally
> mid-July is a good rough timeframe. You will have luck with hardwood
> cuttings on some easy stuff. Elders and some varieties of white mulberry
> would be in this camp. Ditto any Ribes and some Grossularia. Harder stuff,
> you could try the etiolated shoot method, where you occlude the light for a
> month or two. You won't be able to do it at scale though, most likely. I'd
> suggest fooling around and seeing what works for you. Every setup is
> different and your mileage may vary! If you're pruning anyway, stick em and
> see if they strike! Don't forget about root cuttings too.
> Have fun!
> -Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont
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> Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
> do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
> I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a 50%
> shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist. In
> my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand and
> bottom heat.
> Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood
> cuttings?
> Any guidance would be appreciated.
> thanks
> Dennis
>
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> Dennis,
> I grew up propagating azaleas, camellias, roses with my dad, in a bed
> similar to what you're describing, but ours was framed up of 2X12 boards
> and contained what was initially a 50/50 mix of sand and peat moss. and
> was in a fairly shady area on the east side of the house, over topped by a
> couple of cherrybark oaks. No mist, but no direct sun, and they got
> watered daily.
> Later on, I rooted pomegranates and blueberries in it.
>
> I've had fair success with semi-hardwood mulberry cuttings collected from
> about mid-July on... making a 'humidity chamber' can be as easy as placing
> a glass jar over individual cuttings, or inverting a clear plastic storage
> tote over a larger group of cuttings.
>
> Lucky
>
> On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 7:29 PM Dennis B <pogohome@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
> > do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
> > I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a
> 50%
> > shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist.
> In
> > my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand
> and
> > bottom heat.
> > Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood
> > cuttings?
> > Any guidance would be appreciated.
> > thanks
> > Dennis
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Hi Dennis (and Lucky)-
I second Lucky's statement re: semi-hardwood cuttings. Generally speaking, they'll give you the best take for the least fuss. You may have to play with timing a bit to see what works. You want the buds to be fully formed, but the wood to be not yet fully lignified. It works on lots of things. Try different species and varieties, they'll vary  often across varieties. I'd also suggest taking them at intervals of a week or two apart. Generally mid-July is a good rough timeframe. You will have luck with hardwood cuttings on some easy stuff. Elders and some varieties of white mulberry would be in this camp. Ditto any Ribes and some Grossularia.  Harder stuff, you could try the etiolated shoot method, where you occlude the light for a month or two. You won't be able to do it at scale though, most likely. I'd suggest fooling around and seeing what works for you. Every setup is different and your mileage may vary! If you're pruning anyway, stick em and see if they strike! Don't forget about root cuttings too. 
Have fun!
-Devin SmithRockingham, Vermont

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Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a 50%
shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist.  In
my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand and
bottom heat.
Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood cuttings?
Any guidance would be appreciated.
thanks
Dennis

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Dennis,
I grew up propagating azaleas, camellias, roses with my dad, in a bed
similar to what you're describing, but ours was framed up of 2X12 boards
and contained what was initially a  50/50 mix of sand and peat moss.  and
was in a fairly shady area on the east side of the house, over topped by a
couple of cherrybark oaks.  No mist, but no direct sun, and they got
watered daily.
Later on, I rooted pomegranates and blueberries in it.

I've had fair success with semi-hardwood mulberry cuttings  collected from
about mid-July on... making a 'humidity chamber' can be as easy as placing
a glass jar over individual cuttings, or inverting a clear plastic storage
tote over a larger group of cuttings.

Lucky

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 7:29 PM Dennis B <pogohome@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
> do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
> I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a 50%
> shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist.  In
> my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand and
> bottom heat.
> Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood
> cuttings?
> Any guidance would be appreciated.
> thanks
> Dennis
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Re: [nafex] Growing cuttings in a sand bed

Dennis,
I grew up propagating azaleas, camellias, roses with my dad, in a bed
similar to what you're describing, but ours was framed up of 2X12 boards
and contained what was initially a 50/50 mix of sand and peat moss. and
was in a fairly shady area on the east side of the house, over topped by a
couple of cherrybark oaks. No mist, but no direct sun, and they got
watered daily.
Later on, I rooted pomegranates and blueberries in it.

I've had fair success with semi-hardwood mulberry cuttings collected from
about mid-July on... making a 'humidity chamber' can be as easy as placing
a glass jar over individual cuttings, or inverting a clear plastic storage
tote over a larger group of cuttings.

Lucky

On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 7:29 PM Dennis B <pogohome@gmail.com> wrote:

> Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
> do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
> I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a 50%
> shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist. In
> my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand and
> bottom heat.
> Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood
> cuttings?
> Any guidance would be appreciated.
> thanks
> Dennis
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[nafex] Growing cuttings in a sand bed

Pretty new here but the bug has bitten and I am eager to learn what I can
do to grow fruits, veggies and pollinating plants.
I built myself a sand bed out of concrete blocks and will cover with a 50%
shade cloth and install a sprinkler system to keep the cuttings moist. In
my unheated workshop I also have an indoor misting bed filled with sand and
bottom heat.
Is there a list of what grows well from hardwood and also softwood cuttings?
Any guidance would be appreciated.
thanks
Dennis
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Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Great Lee! I was mostly interested in some of your earlier issues, as I do have several years of my own.
Whoever has your collection will reap the benefits.
Just a footnote - I belong to the Northern Nut Growers - I was able to obtain a complete collection of the Annual
Reports of this association several years ago. Goes back to their original formation. Very useful for reference.

Have a great day!

Charles.

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Sent: January 20, 2023 8:40 AM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Sorry Charles. They were sold and shipped.

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:14 AM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning Lee -
>
> I have tried different avenues on obtaining an address on US side of boarder.
> None will work.
> Complicated to travel to either Buffalo, or Niagara Falls and bring articles back to Wainfleet.
> I will be happy to forward you the cost of shipping, duty, etc. if you
> will mail to my Address in Ontario.
>
> Charles.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex
> [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> Of Lee Reich
> Sent: January 4, 2023 10:30 AM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
>
> My old Ppmona's are still available. Nobody has contacted me, wanting them.
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/> <http://leereich.com/>
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
> Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless
> Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit
> •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the
> USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think they're already taken. Plenty of interest just on this list.
>>
>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic
>> produce, small scale
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know what to do with them! Put an ad (free for members) in the next Pomona. Offer them, taker pays shipping. There may be some interest!
>>>
>>> Barbara Rosholdt
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Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Sorry Charles. They were sold and shipped.

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
•A Northeast Gardener's Year
•The Pruning Book
•Weedless Gardening
•Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
•Landscaping with Fruit
•Grow Fruit Naturally
•Growing Figs in Cold Climates
• Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 20, 2023, at 8:14 AM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
>
> Good morning Lee -
>
> I have tried different avenues on obtaining an address on US side of boarder.
> None will work.
> Complicated to travel to either Buffalo, or Niagara Falls and bring articles back to Wainfleet.
> I will be happy to forward you the cost of shipping, duty, etc. if you will mail to my
> Address in Ontario.
>
> Charles.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lee Reich
> Sent: January 4, 2023 10:30 AM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
>
> My old Ppmona's are still available. Nobody has contacted me, wanting them.
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/> <http://leereich.com/>
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>
>> I think they're already taken. Plenty of interest just on this list.
>>
>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic
>> produce, small scale
>>
>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I know what to do with them! Put an ad (free for members) in the next Pomona. Offer them, taker pays shipping. There may be some interest!
>>>
>>> Barbara Rosholdt
>>
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Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Good morning Lee -

I have tried different avenues on obtaining an address on US side of boarder.
None will work.
Complicated to travel to either Buffalo, or Niagara Falls and bring articles back to Wainfleet.
I will be happy to forward you the cost of shipping, duty, etc. if you will mail to my
Address in Ontario.

Charles.

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Sent: January 4, 2023 10:30 AM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

My old Ppmona's are still available. Nobody has contacted me, wanting them.

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 3, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>
> I think they're already taken. Plenty of interest just on this list.
>
> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic
> produce, small scale
>
>
>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com> wrote:
>>
>> I know what to do with them! Put an ad (free for members) in the next Pomona. Offer them, taker pays shipping. There may be some interest!
>>
>> Barbara Rosholdt
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Re: [nafex] old pomona magazines

On Sat, Jan 14, 2023 at 9:57 AM Louis Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu>
wrote:

> I offered my 10+ yr collection of POMONA and NNGA Nutshell up on the
> growingfruit.org list, which has largely supplanted this list, the old
> GardenWeb/Houzz forums, and any other meaningful gardening/orcharding
> discussion groups that I once frequented. Quickly got a 'taker'.
>
> If these don't move - don't discard them... let me know
> (Lucky123Pitt(at)gmail(dot)com)... I'll bet someone over there will be more
> than happy to pay postal costs to get their hands on them!.
>

Eventually, within the next ten years or so I will have an entire library
to donate.
It consists of agriculture, natural agriculture, landscaping, rare books
(AJ Downing, LH Bailey, a book by Fairchild, French intensive gardening
(Aquatias),
homesteading, Seed Savers Exchange yearbooks, USDA Yearbooks, cookbooks,
farming, many books on fruits and nuts and their culture, many hard to find
out of print books published from 1940 to 1990 and them many published in
the past decade and there is a pamphlet collection from the BBG and other
sources,
a few thousand quality books, valuable to a grower and hard to find (since
walk in used bookstores are almost a thing of the past and if shopping
online
you have to know what to look for, i.e. titles, so you have to search
bibliographies and card catalogs). When I am ready to donate the collection
I could sell the more
valuable books but for the trouble involved and the monetary return it
would not be worthwhile. I would rather the books end up with people who
can use them.
The alternative may be that I will leave them behind and they will end up
at library sales for $.25-$1 or in the paper recycling. Some I can donate
to libraries.
These were written for people who garden and landscape their own homes and
homesteads. The ones from 1940 to 1980 are especially nice.


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Re: [nafex] old pomona magazines

I offered my 10+ yr collection of POMONA and NNGA Nutshell up on the
growingfruit.org list, which has largely supplanted this list, the old
GardenWeb/Houzz forums, and any other meaningful gardening/orcharding
discussion groups that I once frequented. Quickly got a 'taker'.

If these don't move - don't discard them... let me know
(Lucky123Pitt(at)gmail(dot)com)... I'll bet someone over there will be more
than happy to pay postal costs to get their hands on them!.

Lucky Pittman

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 7:35 PM Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:

> The stack in my bookcase is 22 x 6 x 9 inches. Not bad for decades worth
> of good good stuff about fruit growing. I haven't yet put them in a box.
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
> Better Garden
> •A Northeast Gardener's Year
> •The Pruning Book
> •Weedless Gardening
> •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
> •Landscaping with Fruit
> •Grow Fruit Naturally
> •Growing Figs in Cold Climates
> • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
> > On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:35 PM, Henry via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > Del,
> >
> > How big a stack are you talking about?
> >
> > --Henry Fieldseth
> > Minneapolis, MN
> >
> >
> > On Tuesday, January 3, 2023, 08:50:05 AM CST, MnDel <
> dsmndel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > thanks Lawrence, I will wait and hope someone on the list wants them, how
> > many folk are left here? Del
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 3, 2023 at 12:00 AM Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> On Mon, Jan 2, 2023 at 9:58 PM MnDel <dsmndel@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I have a stack of these to give away for cost of postage, any takers?
> >> nafex
> >>> was great for me in my orchard beginnings in the 90's
> >>> del stubbs
> >>>
> >>
> >> There is a possibility that the D.H. Hill Library at N.C. State
> University
> >> in Raleigh, N.C. might want them. I have contacted them in the past and
> >> they expressed interest in some of my books on agriculture.
> >> What about the National Agricultural Library or the Alternative Farming
> >> System Information Center at NAL?
> >>
> >> Unless someone in this list wants them or NAFEX itself or their members.
> >>
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Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Hi Lee -

I understand the cost of shipping with to-days surcharges due to cost of fuels, customs, etc.
Will work on aspect of an address in New York State.
My main goal is to obtain all your valuable Pomona's safely.
Please bear with me.
Thanks.
Happy New Year.

Charles

-----Original Message-----
From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lee Reich
Sent: January 4, 2023 8:40 PM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Hi Charles,

I often get orders from Canada for books that I've written; it costs a fortune to ship even one book! Do you have a contact across the border into the US to whom I could mail the Pomonas, where you could pick them up?

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Lee -
>
> Great!
>
> Charles Rhora,
> 33083 Wills Road,
> Wainfleet, ON L0S 1V0
> Canada.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex
> [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> Of Lee Reich
> Sent: January 4, 2023 4:33 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Let me know your address so I can box them up and figure postage.
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
> Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless
> Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit
> •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the
> USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Lee -
>>
>> Thank you for your offer.
>>
>> Have an excellent usage for your Pomona's.
>>
>> Let me know your costs as you indicated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Charles Rhora.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On
>> Behalf Of Lee Reich
>> Sent: January 4, 2023 10:30 AM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
>> Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>> <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
>>
>> My old Ppmona's are still available. Nobody has contacted me, wanting them.
>>
>> Lee
>> Lee Reich, PhD
>> Come visit my farmden at
>> http://www.leereich.com/blog
>> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/> <http://leereich.com/>
>>
>> Books by Lee Reich:
>> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
>> Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book
>> •Weedless Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping
>> with Fruit •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates •
>> Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think they're already taken. Plenty of interest just on this list.
>>>
>>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic
>>> produce, small scale
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know what to do with them! Put an ad (free for members) in the next Pomona. Offer them, taker pays shipping. There may be some interest!
>>>>
>>>> Barbara Rosholdt
>>>
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Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

On Wed, Jan 4, 2023 at 8:40 PM Lee Reich <leeareich@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Charles,
>
> I often get orders from Canada for books that I've written; it costs a
> fortune to ship even one book!

There may be a workaround. Shipping costs could be related to import duty
related. It depends on how the goods are designated/described. Maybe paper
goods could be labelled "kindling" instead of books or literature.
What about insurance. Eliminating that could help with costs. I shipped a
woodworking hand plane to a customer in Canada and he set it up on his end
by varying the item description and shipping ended up being very reasonable
instead of way more dollars.

Do you have a contact across the border into the US to whom I could mail
> the Pomonas, where you could pick them up?
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
> Better Garden
> •A Northeast Gardener's Year
> •The Pruning Book
> •Weedless Gardening
> •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
> •Landscaping with Fruit
> •Grow Fruit Naturally
> •Growing Figs in Cold Climates
> • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
> > On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Lee -
> >
> > Great!
> >
> > Charles Rhora,
> > 33083 Wills Road,
> > Wainfleet, ON L0S 1V0
> > Canada.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org]
> On Behalf Of Lee Reich
> > Sent: January 4, 2023 4:33 PM
> > To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> > Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
> >
> > Hi Charles,
> >
> > Let me know your address so I can box them up and figure postage.
> >
> > Lee
> > Lee Reich, PhD
> > Come visit my farmden at
> > http://www.leereich.com/blog
> > http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>
> >
> > Books by Lee Reich:
> > •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
> Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless
> Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit •Grow
> Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the USDA
> Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
> >
> >> On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Hi Lee -
> >>
> >> Thank you for your offer.
> >>
> >> Have an excellent usage for your Pomona's.
> >>
> >> Let me know your costs as you indicated.
> >>
> >> Thank you
> >>
> >> Charles Rhora.
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nafex
> >> [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
> >> Of Lee Reich
> >> Sent: January 4, 2023 10:30 AM
> >> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> >> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>>
> >> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
> >>
> >> My old Ppmona's are still available. Nobody has contacted me, wanting
> them.
> >>
> >> Lee
> >> Lee Reich, PhD
> >> Come visit my farmden at
> >> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> >> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/> <http://leereich.com/>
> >>
> >> Books by Lee Reich:
> >> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
> >> Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless
> >> Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit
> >> •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the
> >> USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
> >>
> >>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I think they're already taken. Plenty of interest just on this list.
> >>>
> >>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic
> >>> produce, small scale
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> I know what to do with them! Put an ad (free for members) in the
> next Pomona. Offer them, taker pays shipping. There may be some interest!
> >>>>
> >>>> Barbara Rosholdt
> >>>
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Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions

Hi Charles,

I often get orders from Canada for books that I've written; it costs a fortune to ship even one book! Do you have a contact across the border into the US to whom I could mail the Pomonas, where you could pick them up?

Lee
Lee Reich, PhD
Come visit my farmden at
http://www.leereich.com/blog
http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>

Books by Lee Reich:
•The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden
•A Northeast Gardener's Year
•The Pruning Book
•Weedless Gardening
•Uncommon Fruits for every Garden
•Landscaping with Fruit
•Grow Fruit Naturally
•Growing Figs in Cold Climates
• Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)

> On Jan 4, 2023, at 5:12 PM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Lee -
>
> Great!
>
> Charles Rhora,
> 33083 Wills Road,
> Wainfleet, ON L0S 1V0
> Canada.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Lee Reich
> Sent: January 4, 2023 4:33 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
>
> Hi Charles,
>
> Let me know your address so I can box them up and figure postage.
>
> Lee
> Lee Reich, PhD
> Come visit my farmden at
> http://www.leereich.com/blog
> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/>
>
> Books by Lee Reich:
> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>
>> On Jan 4, 2023, at 2:23 PM, Charles Rhora <rhoras@nuttrees.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Lee -
>>
>> Thank you for your offer.
>>
>> Have an excellent usage for your Pomona's.
>>
>> Let me know your costs as you indicated.
>>
>> Thank you
>>
>> Charles Rhora.
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex
>> [mailto:nafex-bounces+rhoras=nuttrees.com@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf
>> Of Lee Reich
>> Sent: January 4, 2023 10:30 AM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>> <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org <mailto:nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>>
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] Old Pomona Solutions
>>
>> My old Ppmona's are still available. Nobody has contacted me, wanting them.
>>
>> Lee
>> Lee Reich, PhD
>> Come visit my farmden at
>> http://www.leereich.com/blog
>> http://leereich.com <http://leereich.com/> <http://leereich.com/>
>>
>> Books by Lee Reich:
>> •The Ever Curious Gardener: Using a Little Natural Science for a Much
>> Better Garden •A Northeast Gardener's Year •The Pruning Book •Weedless
>> Gardening •Uncommon Fruits for every Garden •Landscaping with Fruit
>> •Grow Fruit Naturally •Growing Figs in Cold Climates • Fruit: From the
>> USDA Pomological Watercolor Collection (Tiny Folio)
>>
>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 9:40 PM, Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> I think they're already taken. Plenty of interest just on this list.
>>>
>>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think Fresh-market organic
>>> produce, small scale
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Jan 3, 2023, at 6:41 PM, Rosholdt <rosholdt@erols.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know what to do with them! Put an ad (free for members) in the next Pomona. Offer them, taker pays shipping. There may be some interest!
>>>>
>>>> Barbara Rosholdt
>>>
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