Re: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries

Thanks, all! Btw I buy the majority of my seeds from Fedco and they rarely disappoint.

Lori Rizzo
Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
MA/RI USA

> On Aug 28, 2019, at 11:58 AM, John Bunker <john.p.bunker@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Try Fedco Trees in Maine. fedcoseeds.com
>
> All the best,
> John Bunker
>
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:20 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Sorry - changing subject line
>>
>> Lori Rizzo
>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
>> Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
>> MA/RI USA
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA, to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other trees.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I've considered Raintree.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lori
>>>
>>> Lori Rizzo
>>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
>>> Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
>>> MA/RI USA
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From what I
>>>> can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of 'Red Delicious', so
>>>> unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened as well, I'd say it
>>>> probably doesn't taste like much.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples-as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries

Try Fedco Trees in Maine. fedcoseeds.com

All the best,
John Bunker

> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:20 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Sorry - changing subject line
>
> Lori Rizzo
> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
> Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
> MA/RI USA
>
>
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hi all,
>> I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA, to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other trees.
>>
>> Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I've considered Raintree.
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Lori
>>
>> Lori Rizzo
>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
>> Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
>> MA/RI USA
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From what I
>>> can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of 'Red Delicious', so
>>> unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened as well, I'd say it
>>> probably doesn't taste like much.
>>>
>>> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples-as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>>>
>>>
>>> Megan Lynch
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 232, Issue 5

Vintage Virginia Apples - VA
Big Horse Creek Farm - NC
Johnson Nursery in Ellijay, GA

All above offer at least some heirloom fruit varieties.
First two have had good reputations among NAFExers through the years.
I've never bought from Johnson, but know of no negatives... but I've not
researched any nurseries in years.

Lucky Pittman
Hopkinsville, KY

On Wed, Aug 28, 2019 at 7:31 AM Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:

> I second the recommendation of Cummins nursery, which with with Cornell to
> sell the rootstocks developed there, as well as a wide range of cultivars.
>
> I've also had good experiences with St. Lawrence nurseries.
> --
> Ginda
> typed with Swype, who knows what I intended.
>
>
> On August 28, 2019 4:52:48 AM EDT, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >Eastern nurseries with heirlooms. Cummins and ACN are on the east and
> >carry some heirlooms- Cummins quite a few. However there is a nursery
> >in
> >VA run by a member or former member of NAFEX that I can't remember the
> >name
> >of.
> >
> >For a forum well suited to answer such questions. I recommend
> >growingfruit.org. They have a nursery list available and also members
> >not
> >far from you.
> >
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> >> Fedco trees
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> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+naomi=oznayim.us@lists.ibiblio.org> On
> >Behalf
> >> Of Lori Rizzo
> >> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:21 PM
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> >Experimenters <
> >> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
> >> Subject: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries
> >>
> >> Sorry - changing subject line
> >>
> >> Lori Rizzo
> >> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
> >Fisherwoman
> >> MA/RI USA
> >>
> >>
> >> > On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com>
> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> > Hi all,
> >> > I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to
> >start
> >> planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX
> >member
> >> in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to
> >Plymouth, MA,
> >> to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few
> >other
> >> trees.
> >> >
> >> > Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get
> >good
> >> sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and
> >> varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I ve considered
> >> Raintree.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Lori
> >> >
> >> > Lori Rizzo
> >> > Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
> >> > Fisherwoman MA/RI USA
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos.
> >From
> >> >> what I can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of Red
> >> >> Delicious , so unless some amazing taste/texture mutations
> >happened
> >> >> as well, I d say it probably doesn t taste like much.
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples
> >> >> -as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >> Megan Lynch
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 232, Issue 5

I second the recommendation of Cummins nursery, which with with Cornell to sell the rootstocks developed there, as well as a wide range of cultivars.

I've also had good experiences with St. Lawrence nurseries.
--
Ginda
typed with Swype, who knows what I intended.


On August 28, 2019 4:52:48 AM EDT, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>Eastern nurseries with heirlooms. Cummins and ACN are on the east and
>carry some heirlooms- Cummins quite a few. However there is a nursery
>in
>VA run by a member or former member of NAFEX that I can't remember the
>name
>of.
>
>For a forum well suited to answer such questions. I recommend
>growingfruit.org. They have a nursery list available and also members
>not
>far from you.
>
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>> From: <naomi@oznayim.us>
>> To: "'mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
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>> Subject: Re: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries
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>> Fedco trees
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+naomi=oznayim.us@lists.ibiblio.org> On
>Behalf
>> Of Lori Rizzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:21 PM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
>Experimenters <
>> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries
>>
>> Sorry - changing subject line
>>
>> Lori Rizzo
>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
>Fisherwoman
>> MA/RI USA
>>
>>
>> > On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> > I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to
>start
>> planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX
>member
>> in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to
>Plymouth, MA,
>> to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few
>other
>> trees.
>> >
>> > Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get
>good
>> sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and
>> varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I ve considered
>> Raintree.
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Lori
>> >
>> > Lori Rizzo
>> > Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
>> > Fisherwoman MA/RI USA
>> >
>> >
>> >> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos.
>From
>> >> what I can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of Red
>> >> Delicious , so unless some amazing taste/texture mutations
>happened
>> >> as well, I d say it probably doesn t taste like much.
>> >>
>> >>
>https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples
>> >> -as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> Megan Lynch
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 232, Issue 5

Hi Lori,
David Vernon at Century Farm in northern NC has preserved Lee Calhoun's
heirloom collection that Lee collected from throughout the south. Not
all are southern apple. For example, David offers Roxbury Russet, a 17th
century apple from Massachusetts.
See: https://www.centuryfarmorchards.com/

I have bought multiple trees from David and also have ordered custom
grafted trees from a variety I found on a new land purchase that I
wished to preserve. I have had a very good experience with David and his
trees.

Good luck on planting out your new place!

Elizabeth Hilborn

On 8/28/2019 4:52 AM, Alan Haigh wrote:
> Eastern nurseries with heirlooms. Cummins and ACN are on the east and
> carry some heirlooms- Cummins quite a few. However there is a nursery in
> VA run by a member or former member of NAFEX that I can't remember the name
> of.
>
> For a forum well suited to answer such questions. I recommend
> growingfruit.org. They have a nursery list available and also members not
> far from you.
>
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>> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:29:03 -0600
>> From: <naomi@oznayim.us>
>> To: "'mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit
>> Experimenters'" <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries
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>> Fedco trees
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+naomi=oznayim.us@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf
>> Of Lori Rizzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:21 PM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters <
>> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries
>>
>> Sorry - changing subject line
>>
>> Lori Rizzo
>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
>> MA/RI USA
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start
>> planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member
>> in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA,
>> to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other
>> trees.
>>> Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good
>> sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and
>> varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I ve considered
>> Raintree.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lori
>>>
>>> Lori Rizzo
>>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
>>> Fisherwoman MA/RI USA
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From
>>>> what I can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of Red
>>>> Delicious , so unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened
>>>> as well, I d say it probably doesn t taste like much.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples
>>>> -as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Megan Lynch
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 232, Issue 5

Thanks, Alan!

Lori Rizzo
Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
MA/RI USA


> On Aug 28, 2019, at 4:52 AM, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Eastern nurseries with heirlooms. Cummins and ACN are on the east and
> carry some heirlooms- Cummins quite a few. However there is a nursery in
> VA run by a member or former member of NAFEX that I can't remember the name
> of.
>
> For a forum well suited to answer such questions. I recommend
> growingfruit.org. They have a nursery list available and also members not
> far from you.
>
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>> Date: Tue, 27 Aug 2019 20:29:03 -0600
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nafex <nafex-bounces+naomi=oznayim.us@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf
>> Of Lori Rizzo
>> Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:21 PM
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>> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>
>> Subject: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries
>>
>> Sorry - changing subject line
>>
>> Lori Rizzo
>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
>> MA/RI USA
>>
>>
>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>> I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start
>> planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member
>> in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA,
>> to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other
>> trees.
>>>
>>> Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good
>> sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and
>> varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I ve considered
>> Raintree.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Lori
>>>
>>> Lori Rizzo
>>> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
>>> Fisherwoman MA/RI USA
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From
>>>> what I can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of Red
>>>> Delicious , so unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened
>>>> as well, I d say it probably doesn t taste like much.
>>>>
>>>> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples
>>>> -as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [nafex] nafex Digest, Vol 232, Issue 5

Eastern nurseries with heirlooms. Cummins and ACN are on the east and
carry some heirlooms- Cummins quite a few. However there is a nursery in
VA run by a member or former member of NAFEX that I can't remember the name
of.

For a forum well suited to answer such questions. I recommend
growingfruit.org. They have a nursery list available and also members not
far from you.

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> Fedco trees
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> Sorry - changing subject line
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> Lori Rizzo
> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
> MA/RI USA
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>
> > On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start
> planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member
> in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA,
> to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other
> trees.
> >
> > Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good
> sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and
> varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I ve considered
> Raintree.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lori
> >
> > Lori Rizzo
> > Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
> > Fisherwoman MA/RI USA
> >
> >
> >> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From
> >> what I can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of Red
> >> Delicious , so unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened
> >> as well, I d say it probably doesn t taste like much.
> >>
> >> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples
> >> -as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
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Re: [nafex] This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:51 PM Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:

> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From what I
> can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of 'Red Delicious', so
> unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened as well, I'd say it
> probably doesn't taste like much.
>

Than there is the Arkansas Black which has great flavor. A local store
carried these for a few years and I was able to sample the variety.

>
>
> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples-as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
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Re: [nafex] This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.

On Tue, Aug 27, 2019 at 8:40 PM Road's End Farm <organic87@frontiernet.net>
wrote:

> Pretty!
>
> Any idea what the flavor's like?
>

I have no idea, would have to Google or DuckDuckGo it for more info. Its
Tibetan, part of their heritage, food production systems and culture
and will survive any and all Chinese obstruction.

>
>
> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
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> > On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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> > This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.
> > <https://i.imgur.com/0sEqSni.jpg>
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Re: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries

Fedco trees

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From: nafex <nafex-bounces+naomi=oznayim.us@lists.ibiblio.org> On Behalf Of Lori Rizzo
Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2019 8:21 PM
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Subject: [nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries

Sorry - changing subject line

Lori Rizzo
Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman MA/RI USA


> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA, to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other trees.
>
> Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I ve considered Raintree.
>
> Thanks,
> Lori
>
> Lori Rizzo
> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens Saltwater Kayak
> Fisherwoman MA/RI USA
>
>
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From
>> what I can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of Red
>> Delicious , so unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened
>> as well, I d say it probably doesn t taste like much.
>>
>> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples
>> -as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>>
>>
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[nafex] (Nafex) Northeastern Nurseries

Sorry - changing subject line

Lori Rizzo
Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
MA/RI USA

> On Aug 27, 2019, at 10:19 PM, Lori Rizzo <rizzolori1@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA, to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other trees.
>
> Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I've considered Raintree.
>
> Thanks,
> Lori
>
> Lori Rizzo
> Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
> Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
> MA/RI USA
>
>
>> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From what I
>> can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of 'Red Delicious', so
>> unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened as well, I'd say it
>> probably doesn't taste like much.
>>
>> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples-as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>>
>>
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Re: [nafex] This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.

Hi all,
I finally was able to settle on6 acres in Rhode Island and want to start planting my fruit trees. My first will be a wild russet from a NAFEX member in Vermont I have personally carried in my car from Boston to Plymouth, MA, to Oregon and now back to Coventry, RI - so now I want to buy a few other trees.

Any suggestions for nurseries in MA, CT, or RI where I could get good sized trees - otherwise, online nurseries that carry heirlooms and varieties such as Crispin...does Cornell ever sell? I've considered Raintree.

Thanks,
Lori

Lori Rizzo
Aristaios Farms Whippets & Heirloom Gardens
Saltwater Kayak Fisherwoman
MA/RI USA

> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:51 PM, Megan Lynch <spidra@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From what I
> can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of 'Red Delicious', so
> unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened as well, I'd say it
> probably doesn't taste like much.
>
> https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples-as-beautiful-as-diamonds/
>
>
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Re: [nafex] This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.

This story goes viral evry so often, mostly due to the photos. From what I
can see, it seems to be a particularly dark sport of 'Red Delicious', so
unless some amazing taste/texture mutations happened as well, I'd say it
probably doesn't taste like much.

https://www.freshplaza.com/article/2183710/china-black-diamond-apples-as-beautiful-as-diamonds/

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Re: [nafex] This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.

Pretty!

Any idea what the flavor's like?


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale

> On Aug 27, 2019, at 8:20 PM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.
> <https://i.imgur.com/0sEqSni.jpg>






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[nafex] This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.

This is the black diamond apple. Grown in the mountains of Tibet.
<https://i.imgur.com/0sEqSni.jpg>
https://i.imgur.com/0sEqSni.jpg
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[nafex] Главная - Lemonary In Bashkortostan

Главная - Lemonary In Bashkortostan
http://lemonarium.ru/?fbclid=IwAR0jPICxs3rjteTSNd8gk_9WhWq6YbQ9l4SAvkhpJ1jl0ttnYolVyxBK8a8

Part of the website in English
Resources from Jerry Lehman's .pdf file
Lemonary In Bashkortostan

https://sites.google.com/site/seedkeeping/international-resources/lemonary-in-bashkortostan

Resources from Jerry Lehman's .pdf file

https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&pid=sites&srcid=ZGVmYXVsdGRvbWFpbnxzZWVka2VlcGluZ3xneDo3MDYwNmY2NGM4MzZmMWUy

Experimental Instructional Farm of the Ufimsk Forest Husbandry Technical
School

https://www.greencom.ru/en/firm_info.html/fID/442
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[nafex] Collage of berry types

[image: 65466684_565444063862282_9025053700078436352_n.jpg]


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Re: [nafex] In 1886, the US Government Commissioned 7, 500 Watercolor Paintings of Every Known Fruit in the World: Download Them in High Resolution | Open Culture

> On Jun 27, 2019, at 1:32 AM, Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> In 1886, the US Government Commissioned 7,500 Watercolor Paintings of Every
> Known Fruit in the World: Download Them in High Resolution | Open Culture
> http://www.openculture.com/2019/06/the-us-government-commissioned-7500-watercolor-paintings.html?fbclid=IwAR2FDqDcEV5S0PA-QHQI-zI0Wxx1uqdcVN-QUJGkTYfaLqe1Pxl74Ft0wVY
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Neat! Thanks for posting it.



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[nafex] In 1886, the US Government Commissioned 7, 500 Watercolor Paintings of Every Known Fruit in the World: Download Them in High Resolution | Open Culture

In 1886, the US Government Commissioned 7,500 Watercolor Paintings of Every
Known Fruit in the World: Download Them in High Resolution | Open Culture
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[nafex] rootstocks without grafting?

While looking through the Bailey catalog I see that they offer a number of trees intended to be used as rootstocks for grafting.

Might any of these be grown for their own fruit?

Pear, Old Home x Farmingdale 87 (tree is 61-70% size of common pear)

Pear, Old Home x Farmingdale 97 (tree is 71-90% size of common pear)

Cherry, Gisela 6 (a cross of /Prunus cerasus/ and /Prunus canescens/)

Cherry, Gisela 12 (a cross of /Prunus cerasus/ and /Prunus canescens/)

Myrobalan plum

Myrobalan plum x Peach, Krymsk 86
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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] Hybrid D. kaki?

Please excuse this post, I was in my drafts folder and inadvertantly hit
'send'

On 5/1/2019 10:34 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn wrote:
> On 11/29/2011 10:18 PM, Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
>> Is the seed very flat or normal like normal persimmon seeds? If
>> normal looking, it likely isn't a hybrid and rescue shouldn't be needed.
>
> I have been off e-mail for awhile, sorry for the belated reply.
>
> When I view the kaki seed alongside 'wild' D. virginiana, I see that
> the kaki seed is of a similar shape, but larger and flatter. The kaki
> seed is 21 mm long compared to 18 - 19 mm of teh virginiana. Kaki is
> 14mm wide compaed to 11mm of the virginiana seed
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Re: [nafex] [NAFEX] Hybrid D. kaki?

On 11/29/2011 10:18 PM, Jwlehman@aol.com wrote:
> Is the seed very flat or normal like normal persimmon seeds? If normal
> looking, it likely isn't a hybrid and rescue shouldn't be needed.

I have been off e-mail for awhile, sorry for the belated reply.

When I view the kaki seed alongside 'wild' D. virginiana, I see that the
kaki seed is of a similar shape, but larger and flatter. The kaki seed
is 21 mm long compared to 18 - 19 mm of teh virginiana. Kaki is 14mm
wide compaed to 11mm of the virginiana seed

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Re: [nafex] wet rootstock?

Not sure I understand the question. Waite

> On Apr 24, 2019, at 8:32 PM, Henry Feldseth via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> This question came up on a post about apples. I have no idea.
>
> "What do you have coming on wet root rootstock as the garden surface is 2 feet to the surface water table?"
>
> Anything to recommend?
>
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[nafex] wet rootstock?

This question came up on a post about apples. I have no idea.

"What do you have coming on wet root rootstock as the garden surface is 2 feet to the surface water table?"

Anything to recommend?

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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

Any idea where to get Charlotte strawberry plants? They are sold out
everywhere online. Is there a legal issue, or are they just popular?

-Pete

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 9:46 PM mark wessel <growyourown@earthlink.net> wrote:

> The aroma is incredible. I picked some and put the basket in my truck.
> When I got in the aroma was overwhelming. Flavor is was decent. Seemed like
> a pastry chefs dream fruit for finishing a dish. Foliar diseases plagued
> them but they seemed to carry on. There is a variety from france, Charlotte
> that has MDB for a parent. It is a day neutral with larger fruits, disease
> resistance and an intense candy strawberry flavor. It is our farm favorite.
> Fragrant as well.
>
> > On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and
> flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
> > ________________________________
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> > Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry
> >
> >
> >
> >> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <
> nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully
> flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real
> gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally
> stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries
> he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his
> alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
> >>
> >> Melissa
> >>
> >
> > I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.
> >
> > Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have
> a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.
> >
> >
> > -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> > Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
> >
> >
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

The aroma is incredible. I picked some and put the basket in my truck. When I got in the aroma was overwhelming. Flavor is was decent. Seemed like a pastry chefs dream fruit for finishing a dish. Foliar diseases plagued them but they seemed to carry on. There is a variety from france, Charlotte that has MDB for a parent. It is a day neutral with larger fruits, disease resistance and an intense candy strawberry flavor. It is our farm favorite. Fragrant as well.

> On Apr 8, 2019, at 10:27 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
> ________________________________
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> Subject: Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry
>
>
>
>> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>>
>> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>>
>> Melissa
>>
>
> I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.
>
> Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.
>
>
> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

I was not impressed by their flavor.

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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 8:25 AM, Sam Brungardt <sam739is@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I'd like to find out your experience growing Mara des Bois strawberry. the relatively new day-neutral cultivar developed in France. Please include your zone and city and state in your reply. Thanks!
> thanks. -- Sam Brungardt, St. Paul, MN (USDA Hardiness Zone 4b)
>
> Here's what one nursery's catalog (Jung) says about it:
> Mara Des Bois Strawberry
> A specialty strawberry developed in France. The small to medium size berries are bright red with a high gloss and are blessed with the highest flavor and fragrance of any strawberry variety. Planted in the spring, it begins bearing during the summer and into the fall. The following year it produces a good spring crop with continued lighter production all season. Excellent for container culture, too. Ideal for home gardeners or commercial applications where high taste and fragrance is required.
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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

Thanks for the info. That's pretty high praise for their aroma and flavor. Wonder if anyone in the Midwest or Great Plains has tried them.
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Sent: Monday, April 8, 2019 9:20 AM
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> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>
> Melissa
>

I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.

Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.


-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale




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Re: [nafex] Your experience with Mara des Bois strawberry

> On Apr 5, 2019, at 6:13 PM, Melissa Kacalanos via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
>
> When I grew them in Ithaca, NY, zone 5, they were wonderfully flavorful, and small for modern strawberries. A friend who's a real gourmet, with more refined sensibilities than mine, who didn't normally stoop to eating modern strawberries, but ate only the alpine strawberries he grew himself, declared upon eating these that he would rip out his alpine strawberries and plant these instead.
>
> Melissa
>

I'll have to look into those; they sound interesting.

Not sure whether I want to get into everbearers, though; I usually have a lot to harvest as it is later on in the season.

-- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
Fresh-market organic produce, small scale

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Re: [nafex] Question about this list for subscribers.

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 6:29 PM Lawrence London <lfljvenaura@gmail.com>
wrote:

>
> To cut to the chase:
>
> NAFEX, Inc. should have their web person download and install HTTracker
> app. Runit and start a new session and speciy download folder
> then tell HTTracker to go to: https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex/
> and download everything. The nafex list message archives are public
> therefore HTTracker can download the entire message base, month by month.
> What you end up with is a mirror of the archives at ibiblio. When it is
> finished, after maybe 4 house or so, it will ask you if you want to view
> downloaded website. Click on it and you will see exactly what exists at
> ibiblio.
> They they should take the downloaded filesystem-folder and add it to their
> NAFEX website somewhere so that their members can browse the list from its
> origin at Yahoo groups in 2001 to the present and have all that information
> at their fingertips.. Clicking on the top level .html files opens the whole
> archive. This way they do not have to be involved with this list.
> If they can figure out how to get HTTracker to _update_ the message
> archive with new material month by month, all the better. Otherwise they
> can just download the whole thing again with HTTracker and replace the old
> with the new in their website periodically.
>

If there are issues for them with posts in the message archives they don;t
want in there they can be edited out. Once you ID them then you can go to
the (html) files containing them and delete them, then delete their entry
in the maillist.html file associated with that month's archive. At least I
think this would work without corrupting the whole archive. You can always
edit the files in question.

>
> Lon Rombaugh's Grapebreeders website at ibiblio can be downloaded the same
> way. It is located here: http://www.ibiblio.org/grapebreeders/
> Noone is maintaining this website so I would suggest anyone that
> interested should download a copy for themselves. NAFEX could add this to
> their website.
> As for ownership, permissions and copyright issues, I am certain there
> should not be any. The site is orphaned, unowned and unmaintained.
>
> If anyone needs more information or help let me know.
>
> As for adding co owners to this nafex list I will be adding those who
> expressed interest in helping out after finding out whether they can handle
> the technical aspects of list ownership.
> The main duties are dealing with new subscribers or unsubbing people who
> can't figure out how to do it themselves. The main list configuration is
> done and shouldn't need to be changed. The list homepage could use some
> work though. We are definitely lucky to have our forum at ibiblio. Yahoo is
> unacceptable, groups.io is as good or better but storage space is limited
> (a consideration for the long haul) and Google Groups has issues with what
> email ids subscribers use though that has been proven not to be a problem
> for most people, they _can_ use non-Gmail ID's.
>
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Re: [nafex] Question about this list for subscribers.

To cut to the chase:

NAFEX, Inc. should have their web person download and install HTTracker
app. Runit and start a new session and speciy download folder
then tell HTTracker to go to: https://lists.ibiblio.org/pipermail/nafex/
and download everything. The nafex list message archives are public
therefore HTTracker can download the entire message base, month by month.
What you end up with is a mirror of the archives at ibiblio. When it is
finished, after maybe 4 house or so, it will ask you if you want to view
downloaded website. Click on it and you will see exactly what exists at
ibiblio.
They they should take the downloaded filesystem-folder and add it to their
NAFEX website somewhere so that their members can browse the list from its
origin at Yahoo groups in 2001 to the present and have all that information
at their fingertips.. Clicking on the top level .html files opens the whole
archive. This way they do not have to be involved with this list.
If they can figure out how to get HTTracker to _update_ the message archive
with new material month by month, all the better. Otherwise they can just
download the whole thing again with HTTracker and replace the old with the
new in their website periodically.

Lon Rombaugh's Grapebreeders website at ibiblio can be downloaded the same
way. It is located here: http://www.ibiblio.org/grapebreeders/
Noone is maintaining this website so I would suggest anyone that interested
should download a copy for themselves. NAFEX could add this to their
website.
As for ownership, permissions and copyright issues, I am certain there
should not be any. The site is orphaned, unowned and unmaintained.

If anyone needs more information or help let me know.

As for adding co owners to this nafex list I will be adding those who
expressed interest in helping out after finding out whether they can handle
the technical aspects of list ownership.
The main duties are dealing with new subscribers or unsubbing people who
can't figure out how to do it themselves. The main list configuration is
done and shouldn't need to be changed. The list homepage could use some
work though. We are definitely lucky to have our forum at ibiblio. Yahoo is
unacceptable, groups.io is as good or better but storage space is limited
(a consideration for the long haul) and Google Groups has issues with what
email ids subscribers use though that has been proven not to be a problem
for most people, they _can_ use non-Gmail ID's.

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Re: [nafex] 1. M41 apple rootstock and rocks (Ginda Fisher)

Thanks! In addition to writing to this list, I also called Cummins nursery. To my surprise, they answered the phone. The gentleman I spoke with said he really didn't know, but thought a foot would be enough soil, so long as what was underneath wasn't solid ledge. (It's not.) So the tree is mostly planted. I need to replace the rocks I removed from the hole with top soil, and protect the tree. I'll be wrapping the base with aluminum window screen and putting a circle of fencing around it to discourage deer.

And lots and lots of water...
--
Ginda
typed with Swype, who knows what I intended.


On April 7, 2019 12:57:58 PM EDT, Alan Haigh <alandhaigh@gmail.com> wrote:
>I've never had a problem with a site that has a whole foot of soil
>before
>ledge- hell, I've worked with much less than that in the hills I ply my
>trade in.
>
>I don't happen to use the Cornell roots very much, but I assume 41 is
>full
>dwarf so it really doesn't need a lot to work with.
>
>Where shallow soil can be an issue is with cold sensitive rootstocks,
>and I
>believe, even with trees susceptible to cambium burn, such as Santa
>Rosa
>plums and most of the red-fleshed J. plums. My cots seem even more
>likely
>to die when grown in shallow soil.
>
>Obviously, you haven't much a reservoir to work with so an organic
>mulch
>would help as would irrigation during dry periods. This is especially
>the
>case if there are nearby big forest trees. Their ability to suck up
>water
>extends not just beyond their limbs, but even beyond the roots due to
>mychorizal symbiosis.
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Re: [nafex] Question about this list for subscribers.

Hi Waite

I'm in the western suburbs of Philadelphia PA. More like the northern
suburbs of Wilmington DE actually, but Wilmington isn't as well known, and
I do live in PA, not DE.

I am a backyard fruit grower, with several heavily grafted apple trees, a
pear tree, 5 or 6 potted figs, several native plums including maritima from
the DE coast, many Ribes, several Elderberry including some of the newer
selections, and a selection of blueberries. Oh, also some seedling American
Persimmon and pawpaw, and some nut seedlings including Hickory, Northern
pecan, black Walnut, and some hicans. Think that's about it. Sounds like a
lot but most are in pots as we've only been at our current location for a
couple of years.

-Pete

On Sun, Apr 7, 2019, 11:51 AM C Waite MACLIN via nafex <
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> Thank you, Pete. I am one of the ones who has fallen off. This is not
> because of any lack of interest and my belief in the good networking of
> NAFEX. Too much demanding of my time elsewhere. But hope to "re-up" and
> your email spurs me on.
>
> Where are you located?
>
> I am in Cushing, Maine on the midcoast. Have a modest apple and fruit
> orchard.
>
> Onward. Waite
>
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> > On Apr 7, 2019, at 10:59 AM, Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > I like the list.
> >
> > That said, as Ginda notes, there's been low activity for the past 6
> months
> > or longer, and some months I don't think I received a single email. Is
> > this because of lack of interest in this format? Is it lack of awareness
> > of this forum? Is it both? Is it something else?
> >
> > I don't remember how I found out about this group - how would others who
> > are interested discover it? While I've seen a few new names here, it
> seems
> > like we are losing more participants than we are gaining.
> >
> > -Pete
> >
> > Pete Chrisbacher
> >
> >
> > On Sun, Apr 7, 2019 at 10:14 AM Ginda Fisher <list@ginda.us> wrote:
> >
> >> 1) I thought that NAFEX and Lawrence had some falling out, and went
> their
> >> separate ways, but I may be misremembering.
> >>
> >> 2) I manage some other mailing lists, and I'm willing to help manage
> this
> >> one.
> >>
> >> 3) My opinion is that lists like this work better with enough traffic,
> >> which is driven by enough members. Recently, traffic has been well below
> >> the optimal level, so I'm in favor of keeping the list open to anyone
> who
> >> isn't harmful. (Obviously, too much traffic can be a problem, but that's
> >> not where we are.)
> >> --
> >> Ginda
> >> typed with Swype, who knows what I intended.
> >>
> >>
> >> On April 7, 2019 9:57:28 AM EDT, Road's End Farm <
> >> organic87@frontiernet.net> wrote:
> >>> I agree that keeping the email list as an email list is preferable.
> >>>
> >>> It was my impression that NAFEX didn't want to do so, and that this was
> >>> why the list wound up being separate from NAFEX. I'm concerned that if
> >>> we tried to turn the list over to NAFEX now, even if they accepted it,
> >>> they wouldn't keep it up in the long run.
> >>>
> >>> The problem with keeping it up in this fashion, which I think is
> >>> preferable, is that as Lawrence says it would be better if there were
> >>> several people sharing or lined up ready to take over whatever's
> >>> needed; it shouldn't all be on one person. I don't, however, know
> >>> what's involved in doing that work.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- Rivka; Finger Lakes NY, Zone 6A now I think
> >>> Fresh-market organic produce, small scale
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