Re: [nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?

Anton,

Whew thank you for the response. I was feeling like leper.
Boy you are in pretty piece of country. I go Charlotte/Moorseville frequently and low the surrounding countryside.

Are you able to grow sweet cherries at all? I am helping a Russian immigrate in Moorseville with her yard and am at a disadvantage since I do not know the conditions there. I surmise that sweet cherries are far too difficult.

the fluffy one

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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 19:50:00 -0400 (GMT-04:00)

Mr. Fluffy,

'Northstar' is also my favorite all-around pie cherry. Perhaps a bit surprising since my 36 years of orcharding have been in the hot & humid Southeastern US. In my Georgia orchard, I had 'Montmorency', Starkspur Montmorency, 'Meteor' and 'North Star'. All were good, but 'North Star' was the most productive and healthy. Since moving to North Carolina, I've grown 'North Star', 'Surefire', 'Balaton', 'Carmine Jewel' and recently added 'Romeo'. The 'Balaton's were terrible. Mediocre quality fruit on an unhealthy tree. 'Surefire' was very productive if we had a good chilling winter and the cherries were very good quality, but most winters we don't get enough chilling to please 'Surefire' and it eventually died.

'Carmine Jewel' finally produced well this year and the cherry quality was very good. It is a healthy tree, also. I have had problems in past years with CJ and brown rot, if we get a lot of rain during ripening season.

Of all the pie cherries I've grown, 'North Star' remains the favorite, although if Carmine Jewel continues to behave like this year, it will finally be a cherry to equal North Star. The trees also stay small, like North Star.

Anton
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>I have been growing NorthStar (sour cherry) for about 20 years now. I must say I am impressed. It make an attractive addition to the integrated landscape, gives copious amounts of fruit for the tree canopy, is easily held at 6 feet and is generally insect, disease resistant.
>
>All that being said I am always up for an improvement. Does anyone have any opinion on Meteor or any other dwarf to semi-dwarf sour cherry? Additionally a comparison to NorthStar would be greatly appreciated.
>
>I am interested in small trees that can be easily netted for the integrated urban landscape.
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Re: [nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?

Mr. Fluffy,

'Northstar' is also my favorite all-around pie cherry. Perhaps a bit surprising since my 36 years of orcharding have been in the hot & humid Southeastern US. In my Georgia orchard, I had 'Montmorency', Starkspur Montmorency, 'Meteor' and 'North Star'. All were good, but 'North Star' was the most productive and healthy. Since moving to North Carolina, I've grown 'North Star', 'Surefire', 'Balaton', 'Carmine Jewel' and recently added 'Romeo'. The 'Balaton's were terrible. Mediocre quality fruit on an unhealthy tree. 'Surefire' was very productive if we had a good chilling winter and the cherries were very good quality, but most winters we don't get enough chilling to please 'Surefire' and it eventually died.

'Carmine Jewel' finally produced well this year and the cherry quality was very good. It is a healthy tree, also. I have had problems in past years with CJ and brown rot, if we get a lot of rain during ripening season.

Of all the pie cherries I've grown, 'North Star' remains the favorite, although if Carmine Jewel continues to behave like this year, it will finally be a cherry to equal North Star. The trees also stay small, like North Star.

Anton
North Carolina Piedmont
Zone 8



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>Gang,
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>I have been growing NorthStar (sour cherry) for about 20 years now. I must say I am impressed. It make an attractive addition to the integrated landscape, gives copious amounts of fruit for the tree canopy, is easily held at 6 feet and is generally insect, disease resistant.
>
>All that being said I am always up for an improvement. Does anyone have any opinion on Meteor or any other dwarf to semi-dwarf sour cherry? Additionally a comparison to NorthStar would be greatly appreciated.
>
>I am interested in small trees that can be easily netted for the integrated urban landscape.
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[nafex] Princes of Persian fruit: the joys of growing quinces and medlars (Telegraph.co.uk)

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[nafex] North Star vs Meteor vs ?

Gang,

I have been growing NorthStar (sour cherry) for about 20 years now. I must say I am impressed. It make an attractive addition to the integrated landscape, gives copious amounts of fruit for the tree canopy, is easily held at 6 feet and is generally insect, disease resistant.

All that being said I am always up for an improvement. Does anyone have any opinion on Meteor or any other dwarf to semi-dwarf sour cherry? Additionally a comparison to NorthStar would be greatly appreciated.

I am interested in small trees that can be easily netted for the integrated urban landscape.

the fluffy one


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[nafex] Fruit-tree preservation effort continues in Colo. (Aspen Times)

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[nafex] The orchard keepers « Panorama - www.TheOrchardKeepers.com

http://panorama.madamasr.com/2015/the-orchard-keepers/
photo stories The orchard keepers by Bryony Dunne
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Sinai, the land of extremes, is mostly in the headlines these days due to
land disputes, drug trafficking or religious violence. But beyond the
headlines, hidden in South Sinai's mountain valleys, lie hidden orchards —
tiny patches of green life dating back to biblical times and tended to by
dedicated Bedouin from the Gabaliya tribe. I traveled to the Sinai desert
in 2012 to photograph the remaining Gabaliya garden owners. The orchards
could only be reached on foot through steep passes, so each morning I would
hike to search them out. Sometimes I would just go for the day, and others
for a week. Every orchard has its own distinct character, manifest in the
way the walls were built, the crops that are grown and how they are stored
and used. Some are meticulously maintained and are an essential source of
food for families. Others are more symbolic. In one, a pair of old olive
trees has been kept in memory of a family that spent many summers there. In
addition to this photography collection, which has been published in a
photo book, I produced a documentary film about the orchard keepers. The
film describes the tender trap between a deep and meaningful tradition and
the encroaching claws of modernity. The film will be screened and the book
presented by Maria Golia (author of photography and Egypt) on June 10 at
the Contemporary Image Collective (CIC) at 7 pm. www.TheOrchardKeepers.com
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Re: [nafex] small locale grafting lessons

We plan to have some grafting demos at the annual meeting in La Crosse. It may be a bit late your needs, but good information all the same.
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On Thursday, June 4, 2015 8:09 PM, tanis grif via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:

It's getting a bit late, and my left-over scionwood has broken dormancy and one kind is trying to grow, but I thought I could offer for education.  Anyone in the Madison WI area want grafting lesson, or want to arrange a small class on short notice?
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Re: [nafex] Annual meeting reminder

Good Evening ~mIEKAL

The wine tasting is Friday evening after the field tour and before the
banquet. The technical sessions is on Thursday which is what the
registration covers. No, if you're only coming Friday evening you don't
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then you would pay for that but not the registration.

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Re: [nafex] Annual meeting reminder

do I need to register to come to do the wine tasting?


~mIEKAL



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[nafex] Fwd: [permaculture] Act now to protect small local food processors

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Subject: [permaculture] Act now to protect small local food processors
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The FDA is up to more shenanigans with their proposals for implementing the
Food Safety Modernization Act (a/k/a Destroy Local Ag Act).

Despite the Tester Hagan amendment mandating exemption of small farms and
food processors, the FDA is moving to apply the exemption for processors to
only those who sell "at the farm gate". Thus opening the doors for severe
regulations of sellers of prepared and processed foods at farmers markets,
stores, etc.

Today is apparently the last date for comments, they close at midnight.

All the comment details are at

http://farmandranchfreedom.org/comments-needed-fda-registration-rule/

Please take a moment and send the FDA a message.

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[nafex] Annual meeting reminder

This is a reminder to everyone to get your motel reservations in to the
Days Inn Conference Center Motel. We have a block of 60 rooms reserved
which will be released next week. Even if you don't know for sure, but
intend to attend, get your reservation in as it can be canceled July 21
with no cancellation fee.

If you didn't download registration the form and meeting information
send out as attachments last week they can be printed off the NAFEX
website (NAFEX.org), click on annual meeting.

Your meeting committee,

Jerry Lehman, Rgistrar; Bob Purvis, Program Chair; Peter Scott, Annual
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Re: [nafex] Dwarf Geraldi Mulberry

Wow, your experience parallels my own. In the last 4 years I've tried to
graft Geraldi 6 times with no success. I just tried again the other day.
Hope this time it works. Each attempt has been with a new rootstock from a
different source. Not sure what the problem is.

Fingers Crossed,
Little John

On Wed, Jun 3, 2015 at 11:48 AM, Dr. Lucky Pittman <lpittman@murraystate.edu
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> Have attempted to graft Geraldi on at least a couple of occasions, with no
> success... don't know if there was/is an issue with the M.alba rootstock,
> or viability of the scionwood, but I rarely have problems getting
> successful grafts of mulberry...
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Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

Question is defiantly answered.  So my next question is, when can we get you to do a mulberry presentation at a NAFEX meeting?
 Robert--------------------------------------------
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On Saturday, June 6, 2015 6:28 PM, Alexander Dragotin <a_dragotin@yahoo.de> wrote:

If the Rob Hamilton question
"Do you have a large collection of mulberries?"
concerns me, I answer with some imagery brought together in PDF and PowerPoint Files located in:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-10671692/Mulberry-in-BG.pdf.html
http://www.file-upload.net/download-10671687/Mulberry-in-BG.ppsx.html
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Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry
 
Do you have a large collection of mulberries?
I think the mulberry group of NAFEX should be more active. :) --------------------------------------------
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    On Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:02 AM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
 

for a moment (and before my coffee) I thought your tape measure was
measuring inches..  nonetheless, very nice looking

~mIEKAL

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Alexander Dragotin <a_dragotin@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Sorry, I have typed wrong link. The Link to the Bulgarian 'Markt Mulberry' should be:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/Vuss1frfNwC4yGgf9
>
> Alex
>
>      Von: Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
>  An: nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>; rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
> CC: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
>  Gesendet: 15:50 Mittwoch, 3.Juni 2015
>  Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry
>
> Thanks Rob
>
> Is Kim available through Cliff? Or you?
>
> It appears that Kim is larger by far than any of the other mulberries on
> the plate, several of which are highly regarded (for mulberries ;). Is the
> tree productive? Full size? Are the berries sweet, sweet-tart, or something
> else? Any other insights?
>
> Thanks!
>
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Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

If the Rob Hamilton question
"Do you have a large collection of mulberries?"
concerns me, I answer with some imagery brought together in PDF and PowerPoint Files located in:
http://www.file-upload.net/download-10671692/Mulberry-in-BG.pdf.html
http://www.file-upload.net/download-10671687/Mulberry-in-BG.ppsx.html
Alex

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Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

Do you have a large collection of mulberries?
I think the mulberry group of NAFEX should be more active. :) --------------------------------------------
Now Zone 8a!! Atlanta, GA

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   http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Atlanta_Fruits/
North American Fruit Explorers (NAFEX)
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Southern Fruit Fellowship (SFF)    http://southernfruitfellowship.wordpress.com/
California Rare Fruit Growers
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    On Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:02 AM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:
 

for a moment (and before my coffee) I thought your tape measure was
measuring inches..  nonetheless, very nice looking

~mIEKAL

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Alexander Dragotin <a_dragotin@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Sorry, I have typed wrong link. The Link to the Bulgarian 'Markt Mulberry' should be:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/Vuss1frfNwC4yGgf9
>
> Alex
>
>      Von: Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
>  An: nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>; rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
> CC: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
>  Gesendet: 15:50 Mittwoch, 3.Juni 2015
>  Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry
>
> Thanks Rob
>
> Is Kim available through Cliff? Or you?
>
> It appears that Kim is larger by far than any of the other mulberries on
> the plate, several of which are highly regarded (for mulberries ;). Is the
> tree productive? Full size? Are the berries sweet, sweet-tart, or something
> else? Any other insights?
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> Thanks!
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Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

Do you have a large collection of mulberries?
I think the mulberry group of NAFEX should be more active. :) --------------------------------------------
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On Saturday, June 6, 2015 7:02 AM, mIEKAL aND <qazingulaza@gmail.com> wrote:

for a moment (and before my coffee) I thought your tape measure was
measuring inches..  nonetheless, very nice looking

~mIEKAL

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Alexander Dragotin <a_dragotin@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Sorry, I have typed wrong link. The Link to the Bulgarian 'Markt Mulberry' should be:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/Vuss1frfNwC4yGgf9
>
> Alex
>
>      Von: Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
>  An: nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>; rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
> CC: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
>  Gesendet: 15:50 Mittwoch, 3.Juni 2015
>  Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry
>
> Thanks Rob
>
> Is Kim available through Cliff? Or you?
>
> It appears that Kim is larger by far than any of the other mulberries on
> the plate, several of which are highly regarded (for mulberries ;). Is the
> tree productive? Full size? Are the berries sweet, sweet-tart, or something
> else? Any other insights?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Pete
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Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

for a moment (and before my coffee) I thought your tape measure was
measuring inches.. nonetheless, very nice looking

~mIEKAL

On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 4:24 PM, Alexander Dragotin <a_dragotin@yahoo.de> wrote:
> Sorry, I have typed wrong link. The Link to the Bulgarian 'Markt Mulberry' should be:
>
> https://goo.gl/photos/Vuss1frfNwC4yGgf9
>
> Alex
>
> Von: Peter Chrisbacher <pxbacher@gmail.com>
> An: nafex mailing list at ibiblio <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org>; rob hamilton <lostman_amiga@yahoo.com>
> CC: Devin Smith <dvidedevo@yahoo.com>
> Gesendet: 15:50 Mittwoch, 3.Juni 2015
> Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry
>
> Thanks Rob
>
> Is Kim available through Cliff? Or you?
>
> It appears that Kim is larger by far than any of the other mulberries on
> the plate, several of which are highly regarded (for mulberries ;). Is the
> tree productive? Full size? Are the berries sweet, sweet-tart, or something
> else? Any other insights?
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Pete
>
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[nafex] small locale grafting lessons

It's getting a bit late, and my left-over scionwood has broken dormancy and one kind is trying to grow, but I thought I could offer for education. Anyone in the Madison WI area want grafting lesson, or want to arrange a small class on short notice?
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Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

Sorry, I have typed wrong link. The Link to the Bulgarian 'Markt Mulberry' should be:

https://goo.gl/photos/Vuss1frfNwC4yGgf9

Alex

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Betreff: Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

Thanks Rob

Is Kim available through Cliff? Or you?

It appears that Kim is larger by far than any of the other mulberries on
the plate, several of which are highly regarded (for mulberries ;). Is the
tree productive? Full size? Are the berries sweet, sweet-tart, or something
else? Any other insights?

Thanks!

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Re: [nafex] 'Kim' mulberry

Relating to the mulberry variety Kim I can addsome words:I found similar variety in the Bulgarian cityBlagoevgrad. The tree owner sells the fruits on the market. I am living nearMunich, Germany and I have the variety near my House. Using the following linkhttps://plus.google.com/photos/111267136626113692786/albums/6156619024520340689?banner=pwa&sort=1you can see the photographed last year ripefruits. The photo with the unripe fruits is made today and gives idea for theproductivity of the variety.Alex

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Thanks Rob

Is Kim available through Cliff? Or you?

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tree productive? Full size? Are the berries sweet, sweet-tart, or something
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Re: [nafex] annual meeting registration form

I got it. It looks good to me
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Hello everyone,

Several days ago I sent the registration form for the annual meeting.
I'm unable to get confirmation that it was in a usable format. So I'm
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Re: [nafex] annual meeting registration form

Done :) (I forwarded the email back to Jerry)

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> Hello everyone,
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[nafex] annual meeting registration form

Hello everyone,

Several days ago I sent the registration form for the annual meeting.
I'm unable to get confirmation that it was in a usable format. So I'm
attaching it as a PDF.

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Re: [nafex] mulching trees

Just reading this thread now. Wondering if anyone has tried *weeder geese*
in areas like this? I have forest garden areas with understory grasses and
herbs. Now at 10years most of the work is keeping the rampant vegetation
down. Which is a great problem because all the biomass feeds the soil. But
Im thinking of trying weeder geese and in your case, Jay, this might work
as well.

Jono
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On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 5:17 PM, Jay Cutts <orders@cuttsreviews.com> wrote:

> Thanks for the suggestion. We have plenty of pine needles here and they
> do break down, mostly mechanically, not biologically. They result in a deep
> layer of organic matter under the trees but that layer is very dry and not
> biologically very active.
>
> The pine needles break down because they're small. Wood chips are too big
> and don't do anything. Except immediately after a rain (which happens only
> a handful of times a year) they are bone dry. Your suggestion of wetting
> them down is nice but would last about a day.
>
> I also personally find wood chips a real pain to work around. They make
> weeding difficult (and yes the grasses and other weeds grow up right
> through them) and are uncomfortable to kneel on when working around the
> tree.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jay
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> On 5/26/2015 11:06 PM, fuwa fuwa usagi wrote:
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>> My suggestion, run a intermediate term test. Mark off a 10x10 area, wet
>> it down and then add a minimum of 2ft of wood chips and let it sit for a
>> year...then dig a test whole in it and see what has happened. If it has
>> decayed a bit and you have worms and insect activity, as I suspect, add
>> enough mulch to bring it back up to st least 2 ft, and check it again a
>> year later.
>>
>> The key is, the sheer mass of the wood chips will likely create a micro
>> environment that promotes decay. Even in the arid areas of the Gila
>> wilderness there is substantial decay underneath 2 ft of pine needles.
>>
>> This will give you an idea what is truly possible in your area, rather
>> then speculation.
>>
>> 2-3 years to run a test is nothing in the greater scheme of things.
>>
>> tfb
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