I noticed my breda giant medlars starting to drop a bit today so picked them all. Happy to see they sized up a lot more-- almost all over 1 1/2" many not quite 2"-- almost double the size of last years and more like what I would hope for from a proclaimed "giant."
Last years crop was more so a disappointment because the fruit failed to blet properly, and instead dessicated and shriveled. After a couple years of successful bletting, I thought the process was pretty fail safe, but apparently didn't "do it right." It seems this may be a somewhat poorly understood area. I think of the numerous claims that frost is required to sweeten certain fruits, which as a northern grower skrimping for degree days on some of these fruits, seems clearly bogus. That said, I did leave a couple medlars on a tree accidentally through much of the winter. If I remember correctly, I found them during a thaw in March or so. They were perfectly bletted and as delicious as any I've had. And surprisingly moist. What exactly is going on inside the medlar-- fermentation of some kind I assume, and what are the optimal conditions for this to take place? I assume they can be refrigerated for a good while and bletted in batches if need be.
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Re: [nafex] Martha Davis
Thank you Jerry for the great suggestion. I think naming a fruit variety in here honor would be wonderful! If this comes to pass, please let us know. Would you be able to to do a short article on it in Pomona at some point?
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Martha was a dear friend and supporter of NAFEX and MidFEX The Chicago area
fruit explorers. Martha several times drove from Chicago, three hour drive
along with Oriana Kruszewski and spent the day evaluating persimmons in
the Jim Claypool persimmon breeding orchard. Some days were all day and then
overnighted in Effingham, IL to return the next day. Martha served as
NAFEX Secretary for several years and was also an officer in MidFEX.
She was a tireless friend of fruit explorers every where. We have lost a
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There are some very good persimmon varieties from Mr. Claypool's work.
Considering her work with Claypool persimmons I think it would be appropriate
to name one of his best in Martha's honor. I'll take this thought and
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On Sunday, October 26, 2014 10:35 AM, Jwlehman--- via nafex <nafex@lists.ibiblio.org> wrote:
Martha was a dear friend and supporter of NAFEX and MidFEX The Chicago area
fruit explorers. Martha several times drove from Chicago, three hour drive
along with Oriana Kruszewski and spent the day evaluating persimmons in
the Jim Claypool persimmon breeding orchard. Some days were all day and then
overnighted in Effingham, IL to return the next day. Martha served as
NAFEX Secretary for several years and was also an officer in MidFEX.
She was a tireless friend of fruit explorers every where. We have lost a
dear friend.
There are some very good persimmon varieties from Mr. Claypool's work.
Considering her work with Claypool persimmons I think it would be appropriate
to name one of his best in Martha's honor. I'll take this thought and
consult with a few Indiana Nut & Fruit Growers very familure with his best
varieties and we will name one in her honor.
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid - Carpathian walnut range
I'm in 4b in southwest Wisconsin and planted carpathians in the early 90s. The trees are all still alive and just now starting to bear nuts tho after last winter, the coldest since 1978, they didn't throw nuts this year.
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid - Carpathian walnut range
Thank you. I found it on line.
http://www.soilandhealth.org/01aglibrary/010175.tree%20crops.pdf
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On 10/27/2014 8:48 AM, Scott Weber and Muffy Barrett wrote:
> J. Russell Smith's Tree Fruits
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid - Carpathian walnut range
I can't speak to the whole range, but there was a huge English walnut (perhaps not Carpathian) in the yard of the place where Dad used to moor his boat somewhere near Chestertown, on the Eastern shore of Maryland. Sea level--plenty humid. Warm, too, although perhaps not as warm as NC. If you can find a copy of J. Russell Smith's Tree Fruits he has a chapter on English walnut & talks about where he knew of trees growing well. Muffy Barrett
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Where do Carpathian walnuts do well on the east coast? I always though
it was too warm, too much disease here in 7a NC.
Will they thrive in the Appalachians in zone 6?
Betsy Hilborn, DVM
NCSU 1993
On 10/24/2014 12:30 PM, R. Keith Etheridge wrote:
> Hi Mary
> I think quite possibly I'm the oldest NAFEX veterinarian as I
> graduated from Illinois veterinary college in'53 (second class).
> 3 or 4 years later I bought 80 acres of brush weeds and some worn out
> farm land nine miles from my residence. I had it cleared for pasture
> and farm land
> At the time there were no walnut trees and I planted 3 seedlings from
> the family farm.Later when I dispersed the cattle and put the marginal
> crop land in CRP Planted numerous seeds
> by stomping in the ground.Along with a few trees I bench grafted and
> the hybrid seedlings constitute the The genetic material of the
> thousands of walnuts I have.
> I remember the area I planted the hybrids so will keep looking.
> Keith
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Yett
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:25 PM
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> This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too
> far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
> walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's
> near
> north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
> cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
>
> I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started
> Spring
> of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your
> tree,maybe
> in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would
> you
> be interested in selling me some some day?
>
> It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in
> NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky
> Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
>
> Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge
> <goatdoc@ctitech.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerry
>> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick
>> light
>> fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
>> trees in the area I planted the
>> hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
>> Thanks
>> Keith
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
>> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>>
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Can you supply pictures?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>>
>> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I
>> was a
>> veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
>> of the miners were Italian immigrants.
>> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian
>> walnut in
>> her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts
>> with
>> me. When they germinated
>> they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I
>> planted.
>> I’m a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years
>> later
>> that produces a pear shape
>> husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
>> and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the
>> mill.Not
>> dry enough to evaluate.
>> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was
>> terminated
>> due to lack of success.
>> Keith
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Where do Carpathian walnuts do well on the east coast? I always though
it was too warm, too much disease here in 7a NC.
Will they thrive in the Appalachians in zone 6?
Betsy Hilborn, DVM
NCSU 1993
On 10/24/2014 12:30 PM, R. Keith Etheridge wrote:
> Hi Mary
> I think quite possibly I'm the oldest NAFEX veterinarian as I
> graduated from Illinois veterinary college in'53 (second class).
> 3 or 4 years later I bought 80 acres of brush weeds and some worn out
> farm land nine miles from my residence. I had it cleared for pasture
> and farm land
> At the time there were no walnut trees and I planted 3 seedlings from
> the family farm.Later when I dispersed the cattle and put the marginal
> crop land in CRP Planted numerous seeds
> by stomping in the ground.Along with a few trees I bench grafted and
> the hybrid seedlings constitute the The genetic material of the
> thousands of walnuts I have.
> I remember the area I planted the hybrids so will keep looking.
> Keith
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Yett
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:25 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>
> This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too
> far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
> walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's
> near
> north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
> cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
>
> I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started
> Spring
> of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your
> tree,maybe
> in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would
> you
> be interested in selling me some some day?
>
> It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in
> NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky
> Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
>
> Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge
> <goatdoc@ctitech.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerry
>> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick
>> light
>> fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
>> trees in the area I planted the
>> hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
>> Thanks
>> Keith
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
>> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>>
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Can you supply pictures?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>>
>> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I
>> was a
>> veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
>> of the miners were Italian immigrants.
>> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian
>> walnut in
>> her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts
>> with
>> me. When they germinated
>> they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I
>> planted.
>> I’m a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years
>> later
>> that produces a pear shape
>> husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
>> and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the
>> mill.Not
>> dry enough to evaluate.
>> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was
>> terminated
>> due to lack of success.
>> Keith
>> __________________
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[nafex] Martha Davis
Martha was a dear friend and supporter of NAFEX and MidFEX The Chicago area
fruit explorers. Martha several times drove from Chicago, three hour drive
along with Oriana Kruszewski and spent the day evaluating persimmons in
the Jim Claypool persimmon breeding orchard. Some days were all day and then
overnighted in Effingham, IL to return the next day. Martha served as
NAFEX Secretary for several years and was also an officer in MidFEX.
She was a tireless friend of fruit explorers every where. We have lost a
dear friend.
There are some very good persimmon varieties from Mr. Claypool's work.
Considering her work with Claypool persimmons I think it would be appropriate
to name one of his best in Martha's honor. I'll take this thought and
consult with a few Indiana Nut & Fruit Growers very familure with his best
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fruit explorers. Martha several times drove from Chicago, three hour drive
along with Oriana Kruszewski and spent the day evaluating persimmons in
the Jim Claypool persimmon breeding orchard. Some days were all day and then
overnighted in Effingham, IL to return the next day. Martha served as
NAFEX Secretary for several years and was also an officer in MidFEX.
She was a tireless friend of fruit explorers every where. We have lost a
dear friend.
There are some very good persimmon varieties from Mr. Claypool's work.
Considering her work with Claypool persimmons I think it would be appropriate
to name one of his best in Martha's honor. I'll take this thought and
consult with a few Indiana Nut & Fruit Growers very familure with his best
varieties and we will name one in her honor.
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Re: [nafex] Martha Davis
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I am sorry to hear about about Martha. She was a dear friend and good supporter of NAFEX. I guess as the leader I should contact the family and mention something on Pomona.
Do you know if we have done anything for the passing of board members in the past?
Robert
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Just received the news that long time Nafex supporter, board member, fruit growing advocate....... Martha Davis passed away 10/08/14.
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Re: [nafex] Martha Davis
I am sorry to hear about about Martha. She was a dear friend and good supporter of NAFEX. I guess as the leader I should contact the family and mention something on Pomona.
Do you know if we have done anything for the passing of board members in the past?
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Just received the news that long time Nafex supporter, board member, fruit growing advocate....... Martha Davis passed away 10/08/14.
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Friday, October 24, 2014
Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid - Carpathian walnut range
I've not looked at it in several years, but there was a big walnut at the
parsonage of one of the churches in town here that I thought was a
J.nigraXregia hybrid; leaf and bark most closely resembling J.regia, but
nut more reminiscent of J.nigra...though not quite like any pure J.nigra
I've seen.
parsonage of one of the churches in town here that I thought was a
J.nigraXregia hybrid; leaf and bark most closely resembling J.regia, but
nut more reminiscent of J.nigra...though not quite like any pure J.nigra
I've seen.
If I can remember, I'll try to swing by next time I'm in the neighborhood
and see if I can snag a few nuts for examination.
Lucky
On Fri, Oct 24, 2014 at 7:53 PM, Elizabeth Hilborn <ehilborn@mebtel.net>
wrote:
> Where do Carpathian walnuts do well on the east coast? I always though it
> was too warm, too much disease here in 7a NC.
>
> Will they thrive in the Appalachians in zone 6?
>
> Betsy Hilborn, DVM
> NCSU 1993
>
> On 10/24/2014 12:30 PM, R. Keith Etheridge wrote:
>
>> Hi Mary
>> I think quite possibly I'm the oldest NAFEX veterinarian as I graduated
>> from Illinois veterinary college in'53 (second class).
>> 3 or 4 years later I bought 80 acres of brush weeds and some worn out
>> farm land nine miles from my residence. I had it cleared for pasture and
>> farm land
>> At the time there were no walnut trees and I planted 3 seedlings from the
>> family farm.Later when I dispersed the cattle and put the marginal crop
>> land in CRP Planted numerous seeds
>> by stomping in the ground.Along with a few trees I bench grafted and the
>> hybrid seedlings constitute the The genetic material of the thousands of
>> walnuts I have.
>> I remember the area I planted the hybrids so will keep looking.
>> Keith
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Yett
>> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:25 PM
>> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>>
>> This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too
>> far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
>> walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's near
>> north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
>> cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
>>
>> I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started
>> Spring
>> of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your tree,maybe
>> in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would you
>> be interested in selling me some some day?
>>
>> It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in
>> NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky
>> Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
>>
>> Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge <goatdoc@ctitech.com
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Jerry
>>> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick
>>> light
>>> fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
>>> trees in the area I planted the
>>> hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
>>> Thanks
>>> Keith
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
>>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
>>> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>>> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Keith,
>>>
>>> Can you supply pictures?
>>>
>>> Jerry
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>>>
>>> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I
>>> was a
>>> veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
>>> of the miners were Italian immigrants.
>>> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut in
>>> her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts
>>> with
>>> me. When they germinated
>>> they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I
>>> planted.
>>> I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years
>>> later
>>> that produces a pear shape
>>> husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
>>> and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the
>>> mill.Not
>>> dry enough to evaluate.
>>> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was
>>> terminated
>>> due to lack of success.
>>> Keith
>>> __________________
>>>
>>
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid - Carpathian walnut range
Where do Carpathian walnuts do well on the east coast? I always though
it was too warm, too much disease here in 7a NC.
it was too warm, too much disease here in 7a NC.
Will they thrive in the Appalachians in zone 6?
Betsy Hilborn, DVM
NCSU 1993
On 10/24/2014 12:30 PM, R. Keith Etheridge wrote:
> Hi Mary
> I think quite possibly I'm the oldest NAFEX veterinarian as I
> graduated from Illinois veterinary college in'53 (second class).
> 3 or 4 years later I bought 80 acres of brush weeds and some worn out
> farm land nine miles from my residence. I had it cleared for pasture
> and farm land
> At the time there were no walnut trees and I planted 3 seedlings from
> the family farm.Later when I dispersed the cattle and put the marginal
> crop land in CRP Planted numerous seeds
> by stomping in the ground.Along with a few trees I bench grafted and
> the hybrid seedlings constitute the The genetic material of the
> thousands of walnuts I have.
> I remember the area I planted the hybrids so will keep looking.
> Keith
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Mary Yett
> Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:25 PM
> To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>
> This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too
> far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
> walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's
> near
> north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
> cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
>
> I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started
> Spring
> of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your
> tree,maybe
> in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would
> you
> be interested in selling me some some day?
>
> It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in
> NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky
> Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
>
> Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge
> <goatdoc@ctitech.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Jerry
>> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick
>> light
>> fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
>> trees in the area I planted the
>> hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
>> Thanks
>> Keith
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
>> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
>> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
>> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>>
>>
>> Hi Keith,
>>
>> Can you supply pictures?
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>>
>> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>>
>> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I
>> was a
>> veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
>> of the miners were Italian immigrants.
>> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian
>> walnut in
>> her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts
>> with
>> me. When they germinated
>> they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I
>> planted.
>> I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years
>> later
>> that produces a pear shape
>> husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
>> and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the
>> mill.Not
>> dry enough to evaluate.
>> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was
>> terminated
>> due to lack of success.
>> Keith
>> __________________
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
Hi Mary
I think quite possibly I'm the oldest NAFEX veterinarian as I graduated from
Illinois veterinary college in'53 (second class).
3 or 4 years later I bought 80 acres of brush weeds and some worn out farm
land nine miles from my residence. I had it cleared for pasture and farm
land
At the time there were no walnut trees and I planted 3 seedlings from the
family farm.Later when I dispersed the cattle and put the marginal crop land
in CRP Planted numerous seeds
by stomping in the ground.Along with a few trees I bench grafted and the
hybrid seedlings constitute the The genetic material of the thousands of
walnuts I have.
I remember the area I planted the hybrids so will keep looking.
Keith
I think quite possibly I'm the oldest NAFEX veterinarian as I graduated from
Illinois veterinary college in'53 (second class).
3 or 4 years later I bought 80 acres of brush weeds and some worn out farm
land nine miles from my residence. I had it cleared for pasture and farm
land
At the time there were no walnut trees and I planted 3 seedlings from the
family farm.Later when I dispersed the cattle and put the marginal crop land
in CRP Planted numerous seeds
by stomping in the ground.Along with a few trees I bench grafted and the
hybrid seedlings constitute the The genetic material of the thousands of
walnuts I have.
I remember the area I planted the hybrids so will keep looking.
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Yett
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:25 PM
To: mailing list at ibiblio - Northamerican Allied Fruit Experimenters
Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too
far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's near
north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started Spring
of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your tree,maybe
in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would you
be interested in selling me some some day?
It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in
NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky
Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge <goatdoc@ctitech.com>
wrote:
> Hi Jerry
> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick light
> fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
> trees in the area I planted the
> hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
> Thanks
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Can you supply pictures?
>
> Jerry
>
>
> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>
> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I was
> a
> veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
> of the miners were Italian immigrants.
> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut in
> her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts with
> me. When they germinated
> they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I
> planted.
> I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years
> later
> that produces a pear shape
> husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
> and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the
> mill.Not
> dry enough to evaluate.
> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was
> terminated
> due to lack of success.
> Keith
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
In a message dated 10/21/2014 4:29:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lpittman@murraystate.edu writes:
I can't speak to the cold-hardiness of BW cultivars - Jerry may have a
better handle on that than me... but many of the 'improved' BW cultivars have
much thinner shells and higher kernel percentages than the run-of-the-mill
'wild' BW - some 2-3X the kernel %.
'Clermont' has the thinnest shell I've ever seen on a BW...'Thomas Myers'
probably the best one I grow... IIRC, John Gordon really liked Emma Kay at
his place in Amherst, NY, my buddy Gordon Nofs, at Flint, MI likes Kwik
Krop best.
These are good cultivars. I know of no winter hardiness problems with any
BW variety in zone 5 or parts of zone 4, likely all of zone 4.
I have Emma Kay, very thin shell such that one needs be careful in removing
husk and cleaning not to break the shell. But flavor isn't as intense as
my wild seedlings. But good!
Jerry
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lpittman@murraystate.edu writes:
I can't speak to the cold-hardiness of BW cultivars - Jerry may have a
better handle on that than me... but many of the 'improved' BW cultivars have
much thinner shells and higher kernel percentages than the run-of-the-mill
'wild' BW - some 2-3X the kernel %.
'Clermont' has the thinnest shell I've ever seen on a BW...'Thomas Myers'
probably the best one I grow... IIRC, John Gordon really liked Emma Kay at
his place in Amherst, NY, my buddy Gordon Nofs, at Flint, MI likes Kwik
Krop best.
These are good cultivars. I know of no winter hardiness problems with any
BW variety in zone 5 or parts of zone 4, likely all of zone 4.
I have Emma Kay, very thin shell such that one needs be careful in removing
husk and cleaning not to break the shell. But flavor isn't as intense as
my wild seedlings. But good!
Jerry
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
Mary,
I can't speak to the cold-hardiness of BW cultivars - Jerry may have a better handle on that than me... but many of the 'improved' BW cultivars have much thinner shells and higher kernel percentages than the run-of-the-mill 'wild' BW - some 2-3X the kernel %.
'Clermont' has the thinnest shell I've ever seen on a BW...'Thomas Myers' probably the best one I grow... IIRC, John Gordon really liked Emma Kay at his place in Amherst, NY, my buddy Gordon Nofs, at Flint, MI likes Kwik Krop best.
I can't speak to the cold-hardiness of BW cultivars - Jerry may have a better handle on that than me... but many of the 'improved' BW cultivars have much thinner shells and higher kernel percentages than the run-of-the-mill 'wild' BW - some 2-3X the kernel %.
'Clermont' has the thinnest shell I've ever seen on a BW...'Thomas Myers' probably the best one I grow... IIRC, John Gordon really liked Emma Kay at his place in Amherst, NY, my buddy Gordon Nofs, at Flint, MI likes Kwik Krop best.
Lucky Pittman (Auburn Univ. CVM Class of '85)
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From: nafex [mailto:nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] On Behalf Of Mary Yett
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2014 5:26 PM
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Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's near north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started Spring of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your tree,maybe in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would you be interested in selling me some some day?
It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge <goatdoc@ctitech.com>
wrote:
> Hi Jerry
> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick
> light fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There
> are other trees in the area I planted the hybrid seedlings so I'll
> start checking the nuts from them.
> Thanks
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Can you supply pictures?
>
> Jerry
>
>
> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>
> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I
> was a veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large
> portion of the miners were Italian immigrants.
> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut
> in her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several
> nuts with me. When they germinated they produced what appeared to be
> a black walnut seedlings that I planted.
> I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years
> later that produces a pear shape husk that a appears more fibrous and
> organized than other black walnuts and produced a nut that cracks
> somewhat easier than the run of the mill.Not dry enough to evaluate.
> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was
> terminated due to lack of success.
> Keith
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Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
This sounds very interesting. I too would love to see a picture. I am too
far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's near
north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
far north to grow carpathian walnuts ( or at least so far), but black
walnuts do well here on Manitoulin Island ( in Lake Huron - Ontario's near
north, zone 4b). I love to eat black walnuts, but any improvement in
cracking them that grows on fairly hardy tree would be most exciting,
I have around 25 or so black walnut seedlings of local stock started Spring
of 2014 and would be interested in getting scion wood from your tree,maybe
in Winter/Spring of 2016, when my trees are big enough to graft. Would you
be interested in selling me some some day?
It makes me chuckle that I now know of 3 veterinarians who are active in
NAFEX and have been growing nut trees for decades-- you, me and Lucky
Pitmann. Maybe that is because vets tend to be all a bit "nutty'.
Mary Yett ( Auburn, class of '82)
On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 10:06 PM, R. Keith Etheridge <goatdoc@ctitech.com>
wrote:
> Hi Jerry
> After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick light
> fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
> trees in the area I planted the
> hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
> Thanks
> Keith
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
> Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
> To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
> Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
>
>
> Hi Keith,
>
> Can you supply pictures?
>
> Jerry
>
>
> In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
>
> Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I was a
> veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
> of the miners were Italian immigrants.
> One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut in
> her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts with
> me. When they germinated
> they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I planted.
> I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years later
> that produces a pear shape
> husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
> and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the
> mill.Not
> dry enough to evaluate.
> I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was terminated
> due to lack of success.
> Keith
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Saturday, October 18, 2014
[nafex] Hybrid walnut
In a message dated 10/17/2014 2:01:06 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick light
fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
trees in the area I planted the hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the
nuts from them.
Hi Keith,
I have a Ken Dooley black x carpathian hybrid here grafted to three
understocks. They are about 25 feet high. All 3 are very shy bearers like maybe
only 10 nuts in three years on three trees. This year found only one. They
look like your pictured husk and larger than a baseball, almost soft ball
size. Took a picture of this years single nut along side an average BK.
Thought I had pictures of one 2 years ago, but can't find it.
Jerry
goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick light
fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
trees in the area I planted the hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the
nuts from them.
Hi Keith,
I have a Ken Dooley black x carpathian hybrid here grafted to three
understocks. They are about 25 feet high. All 3 are very shy bearers like maybe
only 10 nuts in three years on three trees. This year found only one. They
look like your pictured husk and larger than a baseball, almost soft ball
size. Took a picture of this years single nut along side an average BK.
Thought I had pictures of one 2 years ago, but can't find it.
Jerry
Re: [nafex] Prospects for tree survival
In a message dated 10/17/2014 2:16:51 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
sherwindu@att.net writes:
Three of our apple trees in our small backyard orchard were damaged this
year, probably by winter weather. One of them lost all it's lateral
branches and another about half. What is now appearing is new growth above the
graft that resembles water sprouts, but these are coming out of what remains
of the main trunk and not any lateral branches. My understanding is that
water sprouts coming out of lateral branches do not produce any fruit. Can
the same be said about this growth coming off the main trunk? I am hoping
this new growth can eventually turn into a revived tree. It is strange
that what appears to be total destruction can recover.
It isn't as much they are "water sprouts" as much as they are vertical. In
Malus vertical limbs bear few fruit, but there are exceptions. Vertical
limbs can be forced horizontal and then should bear more fruit. Without
seeing the tree my suggestion is next spring prune those new growth vertical
limbs to one, it should become a central leader and develop horizantal limbs
which should then bear fruit. My guess is you are three years from fruiting
again.
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sherwindu@att.net writes:
Three of our apple trees in our small backyard orchard were damaged this
year, probably by winter weather. One of them lost all it's lateral
branches and another about half. What is now appearing is new growth above the
graft that resembles water sprouts, but these are coming out of what remains
of the main trunk and not any lateral branches. My understanding is that
water sprouts coming out of lateral branches do not produce any fruit. Can
the same be said about this growth coming off the main trunk? I am hoping
this new growth can eventually turn into a revived tree. It is strange
that what appears to be total destruction can recover.
It isn't as much they are "water sprouts" as much as they are vertical. In
Malus vertical limbs bear few fruit, but there are exceptions. Vertical
limbs can be forced horizontal and then should bear more fruit. Without
seeing the tree my suggestion is next spring prune those new growth vertical
limbs to one, it should become a central leader and develop horizantal limbs
which should then bear fruit. My guess is you are three years from fruiting
again.
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Friday, October 17, 2014
Re: [nafex] Puffball mushrooms
We marinade them and then freeze. They make great shroom burgers.
Little John
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> On Oct 16, 2014, at 1:48 PM, "Dr. Lucky Pittman" <lpittman@murraystate.edu> wrote:
>
> Hey, it's a fruit…of sorts…fruiting body of the fungus.
>
>
>
> Anyway, just hit the jackpot today on my noon walk – got a bunch of large
> egg-size puffballs I started watching earlier in the week, and a couple of
> softball to volleyball sized 'shrooms.
>
> More than the wife and I will want to eat in one or two meals; would like to
> 'save' some for the daughter who'll be visiting in a week or two.
>
> Have previously sautéed slices and frozen them for later re-heating and
> consumption; they're OK that way, but not nearly so nice as fresh from the
> yard/pasture.
>
> Googling for info suggests that just freezing uncooked slices doesn't yield
> very good results…but I wondered… if I just took 'em right out of the
> freezer and plopped 'em in the frying pan, still frozen, to sautee, or
> lightly breaded them and deep-fried them… would that work?
>
> Anybody tried freezing puffball slices without cooking before hand?
>
>
>
> Lucky Pittman
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Re: [nafex] Puffball mushrooms
Have you tried dehydration?
Kathy
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From: nafex [nafex-bounces@lists.ibiblio.org] on behalf of Dr. Lucky Pittman [lpittman@murraystate.edu]
Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:48 PM
To: nafex
Subject: [nafex] Puffball mushrooms
Hey, it's a fruit…of sorts…fruiting body of the fungus.
Anyway, just hit the jackpot today on my noon walk – got a bunch of large
egg-size puffballs I started watching earlier in the week, and a couple of
softball to volleyball sized 'shrooms.
More than the wife and I will want to eat in one or two meals; would like to
'save' some for the daughter who'll be visiting in a week or two.
Have previously sautéed slices and frozen them for later re-heating and
consumption; they're OK that way, but not nearly so nice as fresh from the
yard/pasture.
Googling for info suggests that just freezing uncooked slices doesn't yield
very good results…but I wondered… if I just took 'em right out of the
freezer and plopped 'em in the frying pan, still frozen, to sautee, or
lightly breaded them and deep-fried them… would that work?
Anybody tried freezing puffball slices without cooking before hand?
Lucky Pittman
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Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 1:48 PM
To: nafex
Subject: [nafex] Puffball mushrooms
Hey, it's a fruit…of sorts…fruiting body of the fungus.
Anyway, just hit the jackpot today on my noon walk – got a bunch of large
egg-size puffballs I started watching earlier in the week, and a couple of
softball to volleyball sized 'shrooms.
More than the wife and I will want to eat in one or two meals; would like to
'save' some for the daughter who'll be visiting in a week or two.
Have previously sautéed slices and frozen them for later re-heating and
consumption; they're OK that way, but not nearly so nice as fresh from the
yard/pasture.
Googling for info suggests that just freezing uncooked slices doesn't yield
very good results…but I wondered… if I just took 'em right out of the
freezer and plopped 'em in the frying pan, still frozen, to sautee, or
lightly breaded them and deep-fried them… would that work?
Anybody tried freezing puffball slices without cooking before hand?
Lucky Pittman
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Thursday, October 16, 2014
[nafex] Puffball mushrooms
Hey, it's a fruit…of sorts…fruiting body of the fungus.
Anyway, just hit the jackpot today on my noon walk – got a bunch of large
egg-size puffballs I started watching earlier in the week, and a couple of
softball to volleyball sized 'shrooms.
More than the wife and I will want to eat in one or two meals; would like to
'save' some for the daughter who'll be visiting in a week or two.
Have previously sautéed slices and frozen them for later re-heating and
consumption; they're OK that way, but not nearly so nice as fresh from the
yard/pasture.
Googling for info suggests that just freezing uncooked slices doesn't yield
very good results…but I wondered… if I just took 'em right out of the
freezer and plopped 'em in the frying pan, still frozen, to sautee, or
lightly breaded them and deep-fried them… would that work?
Anybody tried freezing puffball slices without cooking before hand?
Lucky Pittman
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Anyway, just hit the jackpot today on my noon walk – got a bunch of large
egg-size puffballs I started watching earlier in the week, and a couple of
softball to volleyball sized 'shrooms.
More than the wife and I will want to eat in one or two meals; would like to
'save' some for the daughter who'll be visiting in a week or two.
Have previously sautéed slices and frozen them for later re-heating and
consumption; they're OK that way, but not nearly so nice as fresh from the
yard/pasture.
Googling for info suggests that just freezing uncooked slices doesn't yield
very good results…but I wondered… if I just took 'em right out of the
freezer and plopped 'em in the frying pan, still frozen, to sautee, or
lightly breaded them and deep-fried them… would that work?
Anybody tried freezing puffball slices without cooking before hand?
Lucky Pittman
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Wednesday, October 15, 2014
Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
Hi Jerry
After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick light
fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
trees in the area I planted the
hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
Thanks
Keith
After I posted this I searched the internet and other than the thick light
fibrous husk the nut shows no sign of Carpathian traits.There are other
trees in the area I planted the
hybrid seedlings so I'll start checking the nuts from them.
Thanks
Keith
-----Original Message-----
From: Jwlehman--- via nafex
Sent: Tuesday, October 14, 2014 7:21 PM
To: nafex@lists.ibiblio.org
Subject: Re: [nafex] walnut hybrid
Hi Keith,
Can you supply pictures?
Jerry
In a message dated 10/14/2014 4:20:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
goatdoc@ctitech.com writes:
Kincaid Illinois is a few miles west of Taylorville Illinois where I was a
veterinarian. It was created as a coal mining town where a large portion
of the miners were Italian immigrants.
One of my clients of Italian extraction had a large Carpathian walnut in
her yard with many dogs.Knowing my interests she shared several nuts with
me. When they germinated
they produced what appeared to be a black walnut seedlings that I planted.
I'm a very poor record keeper but I have a tree thirty or more years later
that produces a pear shape
husk that a appears more fibrous and organized than other black walnuts
and produced a nut that cracks somewhat easier than the run of the mill.Not
dry enough to evaluate.
I think at one time the USDA had walnut hybrid station that was terminated
due to lack of success.
Keith
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[nafex] Prospects for tree survival
Three of our apple trees in our small backyard orchard were damaged this
year,
probably by winter weather. One of them lost all it's lateral branches
and another
about half. What is now appearing is new growth above the graft that
resembles
water sprouts, but these are coming out of what remains of the main
trunk and not
any lateral branches. My understanding is that water sprouts coming out of
lateral branches do not produce any fruit. Can the same be said about this
growth coming off the main trunk? I am hoping this new growth can
eventually
turn into a revived tree. It is strange that what appears to be total
destruction
can recover.
Sherwin Dubren
Morton Grove, IL
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year,
probably by winter weather. One of them lost all it's lateral branches
and another
about half. What is now appearing is new growth above the graft that
resembles
water sprouts, but these are coming out of what remains of the main
trunk and not
any lateral branches. My understanding is that water sprouts coming out of
lateral branches do not produce any fruit. Can the same be said about this
growth coming off the main trunk? I am hoping this new growth can
eventually
turn into a revived tree. It is strange that what appears to be total
destruction
can recover.
Sherwin Dubren
Morton Grove, IL
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